$1Million Dollar Bomb letter - All other unconfirmed Zodiac Letters & Mailings https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/all-other-unconfirmed-zodiac-letters-mailings/1million-dollar-bomb-letter/ Zodiac Killer Discussion Board en-US Wed, 19 Aug 2026 14:19:03 +0000 wpForo 60 Re: $1Million Dollar Bomb letter https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/all-other-unconfirmed-zodiac-letters-mailings/1million-dollar-bomb-letter/paged/2/#post-43001 Fri, 30 Oct 2015 08:00:34 +0000 All other unconfirmed Zodiac Letters & Mailings sandy betts https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/all-other-unconfirmed-zodiac-letters-mailings/1million-dollar-bomb-letter/paged/2/#post-43001 Re: $1Million Dollar Bomb letter https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/all-other-unconfirmed-zodiac-letters-mailings/1million-dollar-bomb-letter/paged/2/#post-42802 Wed, 21 Oct 2015 21:25:16 +0000 So no one is interested in the fact that 10 days after Gill died in San Bernardino Santa Barbara police announced there was evidence to connect the murders of Edwards and Domingos to the zodiac? That perhaps there was something in Gill's possession when he died that made them think he not only murdered E&D, but also played a role in the zodiac murders? Has anyone ever wondered if maybe they knew who the zodiac was all along, but were smart enough to not give him the attention he craved by identifying him once they unraveled his sick mystery? Someone who knows more about this Gill guy (who I found possibly buried in Montana) needs to get me the 411 please bc it's bothering me. I do find it interesting as I have had a thought a long time ago that Z may have used trains to travel or related to the railyards for work of some type. This goes back to my thinking his symbols have a meaning in his life other than just making them up. Transients or hobo's that used trains to travel typically also left "symbols" along the way for others to know if an area was safe or friendly or whatever. Here are a couple of pages of some of the symbols used by them....one from the US and one from France: French Obviously the crosshair symbol is what caught my attention..it means Bread but no money translated.... US ]]> All other unconfirmed Zodiac Letters & Mailings vasa croe https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/all-other-unconfirmed-zodiac-letters-mailings/1million-dollar-bomb-letter/paged/2/#post-42802 Re: $1Million Dollar Bomb letter https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/all-other-unconfirmed-zodiac-letters-mailings/1million-dollar-bomb-letter/paged/2/#post-42800 Wed, 21 Oct 2015 19:53:36 +0000 All other unconfirmed Zodiac Letters & Mailings PinkPhantom https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/all-other-unconfirmed-zodiac-letters-mailings/1million-dollar-bomb-letter/paged/2/#post-42800 Re: $1Million Dollar Bomb letter https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/all-other-unconfirmed-zodiac-letters-mailings/1million-dollar-bomb-letter/#post-42782 Wed, 21 Oct 2015 03:01:12 +0000
Would be interesting indeed to find out who received the letter and IF they have any notable connections to Elizabeth Ernstein or her family (or if the family that received the letter had any connections to the POIs that interest many Zodiaphiles.)
Yes exactly ! What if that letter was from Zodiac and he had worked for this family, he was fired or had a disagreement? It would be interesting to see what the occupation was of the head of that household ? I still believe that Zodiac worked in construction , mainly because there was construction going on at or next to most of the crime scenes. The Donna Lass post card about victim number 12 showed construction workers, I think it was a bit of a clue to perhaps his occupation and where he put her body ? Construction was going on at RCC when Cheri Jo was killed. If you believe the Santa Barbara case was Zodiac, there was work being done at UC Santa Barbara at that time as well and it was only a couple of miles from that crime scene. New homes were being built in Vallejo in 1969. Although I do believe that was where Zodiac was living at that time anyway. He knew that area too well not to have lived there or worked. Serial killer usually start out in their comfort zone ," if" he truly started out in southern Calif., then he had lived there before moving to northern Calif. There were homes in the PH area that were being renovated in Oct 1969. Lake Berryessa is the only crime scene that I haven't been able to find any construction near by at that time, unless work was being done to some of the homes in the Monticello area that had been previously destroyed ? I need to check for any building permits in that area for Sept.1969. (Sorry I got carried away, I have a hard time making a statement without going into detail.) I hope Morf is able to get the FOIA report back soon, then we can do what we do and investigate it to the fullest. What interests me is if we go back to the "Sandy" days we found that one of the men interviewed worked in some groves inland. Elizabeth lived among the orange groves. Her house was in an orange grove. Maybe her murderer had a similar occupation. Edit: seeing now he worked in orchards. Last name Gill. He was cleared. Though I do wonder if he was involved in some capacity... Providing the murder weapon to the murderer maybe. Also how did the murderer know about his shack and that it was vacant? Seems like Gill had shacks all over the place. Am I the only one who finds it odd that 10 days after Gill's death a sheriff announced that the domingos and Edwards murders were likely the work of the zodiac? http://mk-zodiac.com/sandy1.html "Wednesday, December 2, 1964 Gill was arrested by Officer James Picco near his shack on East Warren Street in Santa Ana. Gill was considered to be a suspect for the murders of Domingos and Edwards and the murders of Swindle and Swindle at San Diego. Gill was also wanted for pawning stolen guns in San Francisco in 1964. Gill was taken to Santa Barbara for questioning. Gill admitted building and living in the driftwood shack at Gaviota Beach. Gill explained that he was working at an orchard in San Jose on Tuesday, June 4, 1963. (He had already moved to San Jose at that time.) Thursday, December 3, 1964 Gill took a lie detector test, administered by William Cummings, but the results were inconclusive. Friday, December 4, 1964 Gill was cleared as a suspect for the murders after the investigators verified his alibis. Friday, November 3, 1972 Gill died in the County of San Bernardino (the same county where Redlands is and the bomb letter were left about a year before) Monday, November 13, 1972 Ten days after the death of Gill, Sheriff John W. Carpenter announced at a press conference of the Santa Barbara County Sheriff´s Department that there was "considerable evidence" to link the murders of Robert George Domingos and Linda Faye Edwards to the Zodiac. Carpenter hinted that there was "other evidence which I am not at liberty to disclose at this time"." Also: "Friday, October 25, 1963 As the investigation of the murders of Domingos and Edwards continued, the investigators searched for a vagrant who witnesses had seen using a rifle and living in the driftwood shack at Gaviota Beach several weeks before the murders. Composite drawings were done to assist in the search for this suspect. George Edward Gill was identified as the vagrant and a warrant was issued for his arrest as a possible suspect in connection with the murders of Domingos and Edwards. Gill was 50 years old (born October 25, 1913, in South Dakota). Gill had been in the Army from 1943 to 1945 and was honorably discharged after he injured his back. Gill had a wife and son whose whereabouts were unknown." I agree that most of the crime scenes had construction going on nearby and I've often wondered about that angle. :). You might find it interesting that around the time Lass disappeared there was major construction going on the 50.]]> All other unconfirmed Zodiac Letters & Mailings PinkPhantom https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/all-other-unconfirmed-zodiac-letters-mailings/1million-dollar-bomb-letter/#post-42782 Re: $1Million Dollar Bomb letter https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/all-other-unconfirmed-zodiac-letters-mailings/1million-dollar-bomb-letter/#post-42780 Wed, 21 Oct 2015 02:39:39 +0000 Would be interesting indeed to find out who received the letter and IF they have any notable connections to Elizabeth Ernstein or her family (or if the family that received the letter had any connections to the POIs that interest many Zodiaphiles.) Yes exactly ! What if that letter was from Zodiac and he had worked for this family, he was fired or had a disagreement? It would be interesting to see what the occupation was of the head of that household ? I still believe that Zodiac worked in construction , mainly because there was construction going on at or next to most of the crime scenes. The Donna Lass post card about victim number 12 showed construction workers, I think it was a bit of a clue to perhaps his occupation and where he put her body ? Construction was going on at RCC when Cheri Jo was killed. If you believe the Santa Barbara case was Zodiac, there was work being done at UC Santa Barbara at that time as well and it was only a couple of miles from that crime scene. New homes were being built in Vallejo in 1969. Although I do believe that was where Zodiac was living at that time anyway. He knew that area too well not to have lived there or worked. Serial killer usually start out in their comfort zone ," if" he truly started out in southern Calif., then he had lived there before moving to northern Calif. There were homes in the PH area that were being renovated in Oct 1969. Lake Berryessa is the only crime scene that I haven't been able to find any construction near by at that time, unless work was being done to some of the homes in the Monticello area that had been previously destroyed ? I need to check for any building permits in that area for Sept.1969. (Sorry I got carried away, I have a hard time making a statement without going into detail.) I hope Morf is able to get the FOIA report back soon, then we can do what we do and investigate it to the fullest.]]> All other unconfirmed Zodiac Letters & Mailings sandy betts https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/all-other-unconfirmed-zodiac-letters-mailings/1million-dollar-bomb-letter/#post-42780 Re: $1Million Dollar Bomb letter https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/all-other-unconfirmed-zodiac-letters-mailings/1million-dollar-bomb-letter/#post-42779 Wed, 21 Oct 2015 02:27:28 +0000 I wouldn't assume that this was not a real communication from Zodiac just yet. I agree with Morf that if it was from Z ,it wasn't for the money but the attention he would get. As far as thinking that Zodiac never use extortion before, It seems that he did on April 29th 1970 , in a letter sent from SF. He said : If you don't want me to have this blast, you must do two things. 1 Tell everyone about the bus bomb with all the details. 2 I would like to see some buttons wondering about town. He also mentioned having a "blast"( double meaning ? ). He had bombs on his mind during that time. His 11th letter June 29th 1970 had a map and code showing where he put a bomb that would explode in the fall. Zodiac has a habit of writing on anniversary's, July 31st 1971 is the two year anniversary of his very first known Zodiac correspondence July 31 1969. July 26th 1970 was his got a little list letter, two days before that he wrote about K. Johns. The month of July seemed to be a month that stirred him up ? I have always felt that the March 13th 1971 letter sent from Pleasanton Ca. ,was a letter he dropped off on his way to Southern Ca. He wanted to be there to read about it on the news. Even though he claimed that he wrote to the LA Times , because they didn't bury him on the back pages, I think it was because he was headed there. It was also the anniversary of Vallejo's Toni Anstey's murder 1970. A post card about victim number 12 was sent a week later March 22 1971 ,the one year anniversary of K Johns. He either came back to mail it , or had someone else mail it for him. It is not a very long drive from SF bay area to southern Ca., I use to drive it often. I lived in Anaheim in 1962 to late 1963. The cost to fly back then was only $12.00 each way. There are probably a few more Zodiac letters that we haven't heard about yet. Many that were thought to be a copy cat , that could be genuine . ( I don't trust the so called experts ) The har-har for me is z like, I think he has a good laugh after everything he does . If you reverse the letters h a r to "R" A "H" you have one of my poi's initials . Morf, when you do your FOIA request, do you ask for an "exact" copy? That way they won't redact anything. I waited months for some information I wanted, everything that I needed was redacted. That was when I found out that I should have asked for an exact copy. Curiously enough, March 13 is the anniversary date of RCC. They celebrate their college and its "birthday" on March 13th. Could he have been hoping to hint to RCC with that date and sending the letter, in your theory, on his way to Southern California?]]> All other unconfirmed Zodiac Letters & Mailings PinkPhantom https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/all-other-unconfirmed-zodiac-letters-mailings/1million-dollar-bomb-letter/#post-42779 Re: $1Million Dollar Bomb letter https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/all-other-unconfirmed-zodiac-letters-mailings/1million-dollar-bomb-letter/#post-42768 Tue, 20 Oct 2015 23:26:23 +0000 All other unconfirmed Zodiac Letters & Mailings PinkPhantom https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/all-other-unconfirmed-zodiac-letters-mailings/1million-dollar-bomb-letter/#post-42768 Re: $1Million Dollar Bomb letter https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/all-other-unconfirmed-zodiac-letters-mailings/1million-dollar-bomb-letter/#post-42722 Tue, 20 Oct 2015 00:59:54 +0000
Odd thing about this letter though....why would someone make a ransom for a bomb in a house set to go off later that night? It isn't like there is a threat to the people that lived there as they had a letter saying there was a bomb in the house so all they had to do was leave the house. There was never really a threat to anyone. I would love to see the letter if someone gets a copy.
If it was zodiac, he loves the idea that he could spook the people living there in thinking that they were targeted. Zodiac has made threats before that he didn't go through with. It is all a part of a game to him and the attention that he gets from the media. I am dealing with Someone who has the same sort of mind set, he threatens me yet I am still here. Why ? Because he enjoys the mind game, killing me would be the end of his game, at least with me. I would be very interested to see the letter and find out about the people who lived there, I believe that there are clues hidden in everything that Zodiac has written. Makes sense. And yeah, I would like to find out who lived at the residence....I would really like to know this.]]> All other unconfirmed Zodiac Letters & Mailings vasa croe https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/all-other-unconfirmed-zodiac-letters-mailings/1million-dollar-bomb-letter/#post-42722 Re: $1Million Dollar Bomb letter https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/all-other-unconfirmed-zodiac-letters-mailings/1million-dollar-bomb-letter/#post-42721 Tue, 20 Oct 2015 00:45:32 +0000 Odd thing about this letter though....why would someone make a ransom for a bomb in a house set to go off later that night? It isn't like there is a threat to the people that lived there as they had a letter saying there was a bomb in the house so all they had to do was leave the house. There was never really a threat to anyone. I would love to see the letter if someone gets a copy. If it was zodiac, he loves the idea that he could spook the people living there in thinking that they were targeted. Zodiac has made threats before that he didn't go through with. It is all a part of a game to him and the attention that he gets from the media. I am dealing with Someone who has the same sort of mind set, he threatens me yet I am still here. Why ? Because he enjoys the mind game, killing me would be the end of his game, at least with me. I would be very interested to see the letter and find out about the people who lived there, I believe that there are clues hidden in everything that Zodiac has written.]]> All other unconfirmed Zodiac Letters & Mailings sandy betts https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/all-other-unconfirmed-zodiac-letters-mailings/1million-dollar-bomb-letter/#post-42721 Re: $1Million Dollar Bomb letter https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/all-other-unconfirmed-zodiac-letters-mailings/1million-dollar-bomb-letter/#post-42717 Mon, 19 Oct 2015 22:14:02 +0000 All other unconfirmed Zodiac Letters & Mailings vasa croe https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/all-other-unconfirmed-zodiac-letters-mailings/1million-dollar-bomb-letter/#post-42717