https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/darlene-ferrin-mike-mageau-7-4-69/ Zodiac Killer Discussion Board en-US Sat, 23 May 2026 12:58:15 +0000 wpForo 60 https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/darlene-ferrin-mike-mageau-7-4-69/did-the-zodiac-know-where-the-nearest-patrol-would-be/ Tue, 02 Feb 2021 06:04:14 +0000 "I wish to report a double murder. If you will go one mile east on Columbus Parkway to a public park, you will find the kids in a brown car. They have been shot by a 9 mm Luger. I also killed those kids last year.... Good-bye" It doesn't make sense that the Zodiac is giving directions from the Vallejo Police Department on 111 Amador St. None of that works. Even if we think the Zodiac meant driving East from the Vallejo Police Department there are all sorts of problems with distances and directions getting to the crime scene with what he said. However there is something even more important to consider. If the Zodiac had poor knowledge of how the police operate then he might think a police car would leave that police station responding to his call. What his call details indicate is that the Zodiac is aware that the closest patrol will respond to the crime scene. He is expecting a patrol would be up around there. If you go one mile East on Columbus Pkwy to Blue Rock Springs Park, then you came from somewhere around the PG&E Vallejo Substation, Vallejo Fire Station #27 and Solano Community College Vallejo Center, in the year 2021. I would suggest there is a possibility that the Zodiac believed a police response would be staged from this area. It was the 4th of July. If this is the case, why would the Zodiac think a responding officer/patrol was around there on the 4th of July? Keep in mind this is not a contemporary map so you need to go back to 1969. ]]> Darlene Ferrin & Mike Mageau 7/4/69 BDHolland https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/darlene-ferrin-mike-mageau-7-4-69/did-the-zodiac-know-where-the-nearest-patrol-would-be/ https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/darlene-ferrin-mike-mageau-7-4-69/where-is-the-report-regarding-andrew-y-nickolatos/ Sat, 02 Jan 2021 01:12:38 +0000 https://www.zodiackiller.com/DFR18.html Considering this is at 12:10, when in the world did Andrew see Mageau on the ground? If you go through all the police reports, the events are as followed: 1- Attacker drives away after the shooting, southward 2- Mageau ends up on the ground 3- No other car passes by or is heard by Mageau until the one with the three teenagers/young adult show up, see him, walk to him, he tells them to hurry up to get a doc, and they drive off to call the police southward. 4- Hoffman arrives. So Andrew's statement implies he fits somewhere in that timeline, which would make ANY statement from him and Betty useful to a better reconstruction of the events if not identify the attacker's car or appearance. Yet in any reconstruction of the events I have ever heard, I have never heard about anything else than the above 1-2-3-4. Considering that the car with the three witnesses in it said that as they drove on to go call the police they noticed there was a car further ahead of them which turned on the Lake Herman road instead of continuing onward and which they could not identify, that could not have been Andrew, which means it would be ANOTHER vehicle which would have passed by the scene after the attack but before they arrived. This implies Andrew drove by the parking lot, saw Mageau on the ground AND drove ahead of the mystery car which the three witnesses drove behind of and saw it turn on Lake Herman. Unless you were to add ANOTHER vehicle that no one has accounted for, the vehicle that turned on Lake Herman can only be the attacker's vehicle. And it implies that Andrew drove past the scene while that vehicle was in the parking lot and he saw Mageau on the ground. So where is the report regarding Andrew? What I don't get is they got arrested, car impounded, etc., so I would have expected multiple pages if not more than one report about it. But instead we have nothing at all, unlike every other lead, this one just suddenly ends there while at the same time being what appears to be the most significant possible lead.]]> Darlene Ferrin & Mike Mageau 7/4/69 egg https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/darlene-ferrin-mike-mageau-7-4-69/where-is-the-report-regarding-andrew-y-nickolatos/ https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/darlene-ferrin-mike-mageau-7-4-69/mageau-ending-up-on-the-backseat-how-did-that-work/ Fri, 01 Jan 2021 00:09:18 +0000 does not say that Mageau claims to have managed to make his way on the backseat, only that he attempted to. Considering the front passenger door was found opened, it would imply that indeed he remained on the front and exited by that door. Which means he never ended up trashing around on the backseat like the Zodiac claims, rather this is another indication the Zodiac misunderstood what he read in the police report. Also, if the Zodiac came back to shoot at Mageau and Darlene again, after Mageau had made his way on the backseat, it would be odd that the Zodiac would have fired at Mageau diagonally from the front instead of through the rear window. If anyone has information that would point to Mageau actually ending up on the backseat, please provide it.]]> Darlene Ferrin & Mike Mageau 7/4/69 egg https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/darlene-ferrin-mike-mageau-7-4-69/mageau-ending-up-on-the-backseat-how-did-that-work/ https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/darlene-ferrin-mike-mageau-7-4-69/brown-car-timeline/ Thu, 01 Oct 2020 21:04:55 +0000 Darlene Ferrin & Mike Mageau 7/4/69 Chaucer https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/darlene-ferrin-mike-mageau-7-4-69/brown-car-timeline/ https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/darlene-ferrin-mike-mageau-7-4-69/who-is-r-w-mageau-lions-club-hunting-prey/ Fri, 04 Sep 2020 00:14:18 +0000 BTW, that's a golfing society.]]> Darlene Ferrin & Mike Mageau 7/4/69 BDHolland https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/darlene-ferrin-mike-mageau-7-4-69/who-is-r-w-mageau-lions-club-hunting-prey/ https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/darlene-ferrin-mike-mageau-7-4-69/did-zodiac-mistake-ferrin-mageau-for-firecracker-kids/ Thu, 09 Jul 2020 23:10:49 +0000 appear to have some organized elements. I might even go as far as to hypothesize that the Zodiac had complained of this happening before (Damn kids with firecrackers out here) and LE did nothing about it to his satisfaction so he took matters into his own hands. Hence the phone call after. Maybe he made one before? Maybe on the same day? This is a guy beginning a downward spiral, easy to provoke, highly revengeful and retaliates broader that just his intended targets because of a huge chip on his shoulder with society that has rejected him. Basically spoiling for a fight down there. I'd say the firecracker kids messed up his plans to try and stay calm and relaxed that day as he was already well passed tipping point with the Lake Herman murder before. I am starting to think that is looking like a road rage incident turned bad or kids who spoiled something by simply being parked somewhere with headlights on. I guess we already know this was someone derailing in 1968 and fully off the tracks in 1969. Anyway it's a thought. An explanation. A reason where there appears to be none and yet some. I believe the term is semi-organized offender? or a semi-disorganized offender? Whatever we can say about that, Lake Berryessa seemed highly organized. Clip-on glasses and everything because they planned a daytime attack. Pen at the ready to leave a message. Rope. Hollywood villain costume. One would think they were trying to take the focus away from Vallejo deliberately. We know with Lake Herman that there was no Zodiac persona directly associated with it until after the Blue Rock Springs attack. If they are not linked then the Zodiac copycatted that very evening in the phone call claiming responsibility. This means the first Zodiac letter must have had inside knowledge from the police reports as to how Jensen and Faraday died. Lake Berryessa and Presidio Heights are to throw attention away from Vallejo in particular the very area where the crimes occurred. That means only BRS, LB and PH are Zodiac crimes. Edit: What's the story with ballistics here at LHR and BRS?]]> Darlene Ferrin & Mike Mageau 7/4/69 BDHolland https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/darlene-ferrin-mike-mageau-7-4-69/did-zodiac-mistake-ferrin-mageau-for-firecracker-kids/ https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/darlene-ferrin-mike-mageau-7-4-69/rest-in-peace-3/ Sat, 04 Jul 2020 12:24:41 +0000 Darlene Ferrin & Mike Mageau 7/4/69 Cragle https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/darlene-ferrin-mike-mageau-7-4-69/rest-in-peace-3/ https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/darlene-ferrin-mike-mageau-7-4-69/mageau-reconstruction/ Sun, 28 Jun 2020 20:40:09 +0000 Darlene Ferrin & Mike Mageau 7/4/69 aquelarrefox https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/darlene-ferrin-mike-mageau-7-4-69/mageau-reconstruction/ https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/darlene-ferrin-mike-mageau-7-4-69/did-dee-have-car-trouble-that-morning-did-z-help-fix-it/ Fri, 15 May 2020 00:31:30 +0000

She was standing talking to a white male, possibly with a van. Her front hood was up. It appeared like the man was helping fix her car.

And check out the description of the man. About 30. About 6 foot. Heavy upper body. Wearing a dark windbreaker. Gray pants What is champagne white hair? Is that red?

http://www.zodiackiller.com/DFR26.html So shades of Johns and Bates. Why haven't I heard this before? Is there something else to it?]]> Darlene Ferrin & Mike Mageau 7/4/69 Nick, no Nora https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/darlene-ferrin-mike-mageau-7-4-69/did-dee-have-car-trouble-that-morning-did-z-help-fix-it/ https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/darlene-ferrin-mike-mageau-7-4-69/when-did-darlene-and-her-husband-move-to-albany/ Fri, 24 Apr 2020 03:09:02 +0000 Darlene Ferrin & Mike Mageau 7/4/69 Chaucer https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/darlene-ferrin-mike-mageau-7-4-69/when-did-darlene-and-her-husband-move-to-albany/