https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/david-faraday-betty-lou-jensen-12-20-68/small-pencel-flash-light-in-the-august-4th-1969-letter/ Zodiac Killer Discussion Board en-US Sun, 19 Apr 2026 12:33:24 +0000 wpForo 60 https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/david-faraday-betty-lou-jensen-12-20-68/small-pencel-flash-light-in-the-august-4th-1969-letter/#post-80524 Fri, 01 Jan 2021 01:17:10 +0000 From what I've read the shots in Jensen's back are not close at all. the start low down and go up to near her shoulder. You can see the autopsy photo. They cover more or less the whole right side of her back, spread out. It is believed that there were two stray shots as well, which may well have been two missed shots fired at BLJ. They just never found the bullets. Did the attacker use a flashlight? Possibly, it certainly was reported for the BRS attack. As for the flashlight story, I think it is that whoever is trying to "invent" the Zodiac thought it would be more fun to come with this gun-flashlight combo idea and just based that on Mageau reporting the use of a flashlight (which was actually reported as a high caliber flashlight). It's completely made up, and explains why this would never be featured again in future attacks, just like how the guns used are never the same in each attack; it's someone making things up from the information he manages to pull off from police reports.]]> David Faraday & Betty Lou Jensen 12/20/68 egg https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/david-faraday-betty-lou-jensen-12-20-68/small-pencel-flash-light-in-the-august-4th-1969-letter/#post-80524 https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/david-faraday-betty-lou-jensen-12-20-68/small-pencel-flash-light-in-the-august-4th-1969-letter/#post-76218 Fri, 29 May 2020 02:10:10 +0000 David Faraday & Betty Lou Jensen 12/20/68 mccririck https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/david-faraday-betty-lou-jensen-12-20-68/small-pencel-flash-light-in-the-august-4th-1969-letter/#post-76218 https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/david-faraday-betty-lou-jensen-12-20-68/small-pencel-flash-light-in-the-august-4th-1969-letter/#post-76026 Tue, 12 May 2020 09:38:45 +0000 David Faraday & Betty Lou Jensen 12/20/68 brubaker https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/david-faraday-betty-lou-jensen-12-20-68/small-pencel-flash-light-in-the-august-4th-1969-letter/#post-76026 https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/david-faraday-betty-lou-jensen-12-20-68/small-pencel-flash-light-in-the-august-4th-1969-letter/#post-76019 Sat, 09 May 2020 20:11:45 +0000 David Faraday & Betty Lou Jensen 12/20/68 mike_r https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/david-faraday-betty-lou-jensen-12-20-68/small-pencel-flash-light-in-the-august-4th-1969-letter/#post-76019 https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/david-faraday-betty-lou-jensen-12-20-68/small-pencel-flash-light-in-the-august-4th-1969-letter/#post-76017 Sat, 09 May 2020 14:39:04 +0000 al fresco interview with the press a snippet of which we see in the documentary which accompanied Fincher's movie? All things being equal, if the Lake Herman Road investigators were ruling out artificial lighting I can see that it would be better for a flashlight-anxious Zodiac to keep schtum. But all things were not equal, because I think Zodiac's flashlight at Blue Rock Springs may already have become a talking point in connection with that later attack -- as you suggested in an earlier post. Morf has posted a couple of newspaper articles about the Blue Rock Springs attack to this website. One, which admittedly describes Mageau as having been in an intensive care unit for 'weeks' (so perhaps dating from later than August, when the Zodiac wrote the letter we're discussing), reports as follows: 'A powerful beam of light then was shone on the couple from within the other car. They thought it was a policeman's spotlight and they "started digging for identification," Mageau said.' Ed Rust's police report on the attack similarly states: '...the subject got out and walked toward the car. He had a large high-powered flashlight, the kind you carry with a handle. This subject walked up to the car and Michael stated that both he and Dea believed that it was a policeman and that he wanted to check their I.D. or something. Stated subject stepped up to Michael's side of the car, which is the right side, shining the flashlight on them. Subject did not say anything to them, nor did they say anything to him. Michael stated he started to reach for his wallet as he felt it was a policeman who wanted to see his I.D.' It seems to me to be entirely possible that if Zodiac was getting anxious about the Blue Rock Springs flashlight, and a possible law enforcement connection, he might take the opportunity which Lundblad's comments presented to him to insinuate a new and less sweat-making connection: not law enforcement, but gadgets nut (or something like that). Misdirection: the desperateness of which is reflected in the weird tone of the whole thing. I don't think your flashlight theory is ruled out by any means, brubaker...]]> David Faraday & Betty Lou Jensen 12/20/68 Silkweaver https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/david-faraday-betty-lou-jensen-12-20-68/small-pencel-flash-light-in-the-august-4th-1969-letter/#post-76017 https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/david-faraday-betty-lou-jensen-12-20-68/small-pencel-flash-light-in-the-august-4th-1969-letter/#post-76016 Sat, 09 May 2020 09:25:44 +0000 dark and hilly, but that with his ingenious technology the murder was easy for him. Or maybe he had been playing with the pencil flashlight in his basement after the fact and simply had some retroactive fantasy about using it. Just some thoughts. I agree with you that the whole thing is strange.]]> David Faraday & Betty Lou Jensen 12/20/68 brubaker https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/david-faraday-betty-lou-jensen-12-20-68/small-pencel-flash-light-in-the-august-4th-1969-letter/#post-76016 https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/david-faraday-betty-lou-jensen-12-20-68/small-pencel-flash-light-in-the-august-4th-1969-letter/#post-76015 Sat, 09 May 2020 04:31:08 +0000 He does not have to be a crack shot at 10 to 15 ft at Blue Rock. Just no emotional distractions. At Lake Herman, Jensen was running not standing still at 28 ft away where her body laid. She was moving away from car. Count the seconds 5 ft, 15 ft (still easy shot), 25 ft, fell at 30+ ft. including reaction time 4 secs maybe? And she probably was running in a straight line. Maybe he switched from the M.O. of having them exit the car to pointing headlights so mentally disarmed they "thought the Police" were investigating. More control, less shots and sound report, less time at scene. Anyone concur?]]> David Faraday & Betty Lou Jensen 12/20/68 gammaray https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/david-faraday-betty-lou-jensen-12-20-68/small-pencel-flash-light-in-the-august-4th-1969-letter/#post-76015 https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/david-faraday-betty-lou-jensen-12-20-68/small-pencel-flash-light-in-the-august-4th-1969-letter/#post-76014 Sat, 09 May 2020 03:41:18 +0000 David Faraday & Betty Lou Jensen 12/20/68 Silkweaver https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/david-faraday-betty-lou-jensen-12-20-68/small-pencel-flash-light-in-the-august-4th-1969-letter/#post-76014 https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/david-faraday-betty-lou-jensen-12-20-68/small-pencel-flash-light-in-the-august-4th-1969-letter/#post-76013 Fri, 08 May 2020 23:36:18 +0000 at. Why should he have cared that the police believed that he'd shot at his victims' silhouettes? And, as you say, why should he have cared that the police may have implied this rather than stating it outright? We're dealing with a disturbed mind, of course -- that caveat bears restating -- but the whole thing seems souped up to me. I think we're agreed that it may be a pretext for shoehorning in some sort of misdirection. If so, that could reveal important clues by showing us where the Zodiac's raw nerves lay. Silkweaver]]> David Faraday & Betty Lou Jensen 12/20/68 Silkweaver https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/david-faraday-betty-lou-jensen-12-20-68/small-pencel-flash-light-in-the-august-4th-1969-letter/#post-76013 https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/david-faraday-betty-lou-jensen-12-20-68/small-pencel-flash-light-in-the-august-4th-1969-letter/#post-76012 Fri, 08 May 2020 21:59:13 +0000 David Faraday & Betty Lou Jensen 12/20/68 brubaker https://forum.zodiackillerciphers.com/community/david-faraday-betty-lou-jensen-12-20-68/small-pencel-flash-light-in-the-august-4th-1969-letter/#post-76012