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Jarlve
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Re: Z340: 18th column?

It is interesting to note that the phenomenon also occurs when only an incomplete column is added. UTP5 can even be seen when only the last five lines…

5 years ago
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Re: Z340: 18th column?

Cycle hill-climber + break zones heat maps: Z340: Z340 more aggressive cycle merging:

5 years ago
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Re: Z340: 18th column?

Cycle hill-climber + break zones heat maps: Z408: Z408 with random 18th column added:

5 years ago
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Re: Z340: 18th column?

So – let me check I’m following along – the heatmaps are showing symbol positions where mostly perfect 2-symbol ciphers are broken (i.e. if a cycle is…

5 years ago
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Re: Z340: 18th column?

Z408 with added 18th column consisting of random symbols, does not show up on map but has more breaks:

5 years ago
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Re: Z340: 18th column?

Some newer renditions, not sure if better or worse, pretty similar in all: Z340: Z408:

5 years ago
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Re: Z340: 18th column?

The previous maps had the problem that the real sub set of cycles is lost in the other 100’s or 1000’s of cycles. I realized that I could use AZdecryp…

5 years ago
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Re: Z340: 18th column?

Test, log all unique 2-symbol cycle break positions for symbols that have a similar frequency (max -2 or +2), heat maps: Z340: Z408:

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Re: Z340: 18th column?

Test, log all unique 2-symbol cycle break positions, heat maps: Z340: Z408:

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Re: Z340: 18th column?

If we identify cycles where breaks seem to happen between lines, this could be due to a symbol in the cycle being missing due to the removed 18th colu…

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Re: test cipher help

Hey Jelberg, Without testing I can empirically say that something like a vigenère does not increase bigram repeats at the keyword period. Rather, it …

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Re: Z340: 18th column?

Though the problem with the above is that the 18th column still has to be removed to make period 20 into 19. And after adding back in the column (by m…

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Re: Z340: 18th column?

– 3b) Shoe-horning: a plain text with a allot of period 4 bigrams multiplied by a period 5 transposition would have bigrams at period 20, then after r…

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Re: Z340: 18th column?

I thought that Xmassloth meant 2-symbol cycles where each symbol has at least a frequency of 4. Even after removing the 18th column from a 18 by 20 Z…

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Re: Z340: 18th column?

One problem with looking at cycle breaks is that they will not show up on the actual position True, but would we not expect to see a statistical bump…

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