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Joined: February 19, 2015 10:34 pm
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Re: Route Transposition and Phenomenon

One the left, the P16, P32 and P48 unigram repeats, taking 70 cells, admittedly more than the 48 cells of the 340. On the right, two pivots caused by …

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Re: Route Transposition and Phenomenon

smokie 12.25.2019 I think that the 340 is something like this. A scytale, 19 columns x 18 rows, but with some short repeated sections of message, lik…

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Re: Z340: period 19 and 15 lines

I will work on a message. Hopefully it will turn out pretty good. See you soon.

5 years ago
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Re: Z340: period 19 and 15 lines

I don’t know if this will work for a message, but here is how the matrix unfolder works. Step 1. First fragment is untransposed fragment 340 long ( o…

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Re: Z340: period 19 and 15 lines

I experimented with a concept last March, and definitely not saying that this is what we should do, but just used it as a tool to think about the issu…

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Re: Z340: period 19 and 15 lines

I agree 100% and think that the problem to solve is how to find the correct fragment breakdown. If a lot of the fragments are the same length, that wo…

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Re: Special bigram peaks

Here are the repeat cells for the 340, 118 total. Here are the repeat cells for the offset+1 340, 126 total.

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Re: Special bigram peaks

I am glad that you have been persistent about showing this to us. Previously I never put much stock in it because I was preoccupied with other stats a…

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Re: Special bigram peaks

If someone made a 19 x 18 scytale message, but when transcribing into a 17 x 20 grid, does the start position at the top affect the number of period 1…

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Re: Special bigram peaks

You must have scrolled the columns to the right one space, and tried to solve it. If he made a P19 scytale or transposition message and started the in…

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Re: Special bigram peaks

You scrolled the message to the right one space and found a lot more period 19 repeats. If someone made a 19 x 18 scytale message, but when transcribi…

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Re: z340 as a null cipher

I’d be curious to know what doranchak (or someone else who has thought a lot about the period data) thinks of this. Is there a way to quantify how muc…

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Re: Lies, damned lies and coincidences.

O.k., I tried it too and it doesn’t work to make long genuine lengths. Thanks for looking at it.

5 years ago
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Re: Lies, damned lies and coincidences.

Yeah but what about using the same encoding alphabet for both yellow and blue? Did you use the same key for both or different keys?

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Re: Lies, damned lies and coincidences.

Here is a picture of my idea. A scytale cipher encode yellow perfect cycles LRTB, then encode blue perfect cycles RLTB. Possibly something like this c…

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