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(@claypooles)
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But Sandy, why would anybody tell you that kind of secrets since you’re not LE? Especially if it’s so important that this information remains a secret? Plus, 50 years in, how could revealing that information compromise the Zodiac inestigations anyway?

 
Posted : June 14, 2020 7:16 pm
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Not many know about the special way that Zodiac sealed his envelopes, it was never in any newspaper or police report. That was just one of the ways the expert knew when it was from Zodiac or not.
I was told this by Dave Toschi in the 1970’s, he didn’t tell me what that special way was, he just said that Zodiac had a odd way of sealing his envelopes. I thought it was perhaps tape or wax? I had a suspect I was dating at that time and Toschi asked me to try and get my suspect to send me a letter, so they could see his writing and how he sealed the envelope. By the time I was ready to mail a letter to my suspect, to get a return letter. Toschi was accused of being the writer of he latest letters, so I stopped all contact with him. Now of course we know he did not write any Zodiac letters, just the Tinkerbell fan letters. Before that fiasco , two other handwriting experts did agree that the latest letters were from Zodiac, so it was not just Morrill, it was also Shimoda and DeGarmo. They changed their minds only after Toschi was accused of being the writer!

This past Dec. Tom V mentioned that he found out about how Zodiac sealed the envelopes. No way any hoaxer could have known what was used. I don’t have permission to mention what it was, because it is still an open case. We don’t need some kook to try and duplicate that and send a new Z letter.[/quote

just how many Z suspects did you date Sandy??? lol

 
Posted : June 14, 2020 10:58 pm
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But Sandy, why would anybody tell you that kind of secrets since you’re not LE? Especially if it’s so important that this information remains a secret? Plus, 50 years in, how could revealing that information compromise the Zodiac inestigations anyway?

Exactly, I get really tired of claims like that. It’s pretty disrespectful.

 
Posted : June 14, 2020 11:30 pm
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Not many know about the special way that Zodiac sealed his envelopes, it was never in any newspaper or police report. That was just one of the ways the expert knew when it was from Zodiac or not.
I was told this by Dave Toschi in the 1970’s, he didn’t tell me what that special way was, he just said that Zodiac had a odd way of sealing his envelopes. I thought it was perhaps tape or wax? I had a suspect I was dating at that time and Toschi asked me to try and get my suspect to send me a letter, so they could see his writing and how he sealed the envelope. By the time I was ready to mail a letter to my suspect, to get a return letter. Toschi was accused of being the writer of he latest letters, so I stopped all contact with him. Now of course we know he did not write any Zodiac letters, just the Tinkerbell fan letters. Before that fiasco , two other handwriting experts did agree that the latest letters were from Zodiac, so it was not just Morrill, it was also Shimoda and DeGarmo. They changed their minds only after Toschi was accused of being the writer!

This past Dec. Tom V mentioned that he found out about how Zodiac sealed the envelopes. No way any hoaxer could have known what was used. I don’t have permission to mention what it was, because it is still an open case. We don’t need some kook to try and duplicate that and send a new Z letter.

So all the times I said that Zodiac didn’t simply lick his stamps and envelopes based on what Alan Keel said to both me and LL at different times, I was right but nobody told me? Or are you only talking about the envelopes? I don’t think he licked his stamps, either. Otherwise it would not take 20 years and counting to find his DNA.

Mike Rodelli

Author, The Hunt for Zodiac; 3.9 stars on Amazon and
In The Shadow of Mt. Diablo: The Shocking True Identity of the Zodiac Killer, a second edition in print format. 4.3 Amazon stars and great Editorial reviews. Twitter:@mikerodelli

 
Posted : June 15, 2020 3:33 am
Chaucer
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I can’t speak for anyone else, but the info I received referred only to the envelopes. Stamps were not mentioned.

“Murder will out, this my conclusion.”
– Geoffrey Chaucer

 
Posted : June 15, 2020 6:18 pm
(@mccririck)
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I can’t speak for anyone else, but the info I received referred only to the envelopes. Stamps were not mentioned.

And that info was what?

 
Posted : June 15, 2020 9:18 pm
(@blemblem)
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Not many know about the special way that Zodiac sealed his envelopes, it was never in any newspaper or police report. That was just one of the ways the expert knew when it was from Zodiac or not.
I was told this by Dave Toschi in the 1970’s, he didn’t tell me what that special way was, he just said that Zodiac had a odd way of sealing his envelopes. I thought it was perhaps tape or wax? I had a suspect I was dating at that time and Toschi asked me to try and get my suspect to send me a letter, so they could see his writing and how he sealed the envelope. By the time I was ready to mail a letter to my suspect, to get a return letter. Toschi was accused of being the writer of he latest letters, so I stopped all contact with him. Now of course we know he did not write any Zodiac letters, just the Tinkerbell fan letters. Before that fiasco , two other handwriting experts did agree that the latest letters were from Zodiac, so it was not just Morrill, it was also Shimoda and DeGarmo. They changed their minds only after Toschi was accused of being the writer!

This past Dec. Tom V mentioned that he found out about how Zodiac sealed the envelopes. No way any hoaxer could have known what was used. I don’t have permission to mention what it was, because it is still an open case. We don’t need some kook to try and duplicate that and send a new Z letter.

So all the times I said that Zodiac didn’t simply lick his stamps and envelopes based on what Alan Keel said to both me and LL at different times, I was right but nobody told me? Or are you only talking about the envelopes? I don’t think he licked his stamps, either. Otherwise it would not take 20 years and counting to find his DNA.

Oh boy…I thought, going back to Allen, that people were aware of stuff like that. And now you’re here talking as if you found out and everyone brushed it off.

Most posts are not ground for you to talk about Qvale, or yourself. As with the other poster, get over yourself.

 
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