Tell your wives, daughters and sisters. (sic)

In the movie, the principle stood before a PTA
crowd and said, "tell your children" etc.

What is (preventing) us from solving this case?

What do you, et.el., need?

The police have a lot of evidence in
their possession, but what do we have in ours?
We might have it, in the most oblivious place.

The Purloined Letter?

Blind Bat

Any hard factual proof. One tiny sliver of real conclusive undisputed evidence that proves beyond a shadow of doubt that a particular individual committed at least one of the murders or attempted murders collectively referred to as Zodiac.
You can pile all the old newspaper articles, ads, pieces of shirt, comic books, ciphers, and all the other clutter in this case into one suspects basement, but without hard conclusive evidenced, admissible and recognized by a court of law and proving guilt, it’s worthless. Fun, intreging yes but nothing more.

What is (preventing) us from solving this case?

What do you, et.el., need?

The police have a lot of evidence in
their possession, but what do we have in ours?
We might have it, in the most oblivious place.

The Purloined Letter?

Blind Bat

Any hard factual proof. One tiny sliver of real conclusive undisputed evidence that proves beyond a shadow of doubt that a particular individual committed at least one of the murders or attempted murders collectively referred to as Zodiac.
You can pile all the old newspaper articles, ads, pieces of shirt, comic books, ciphers, and all the other clutter in this case into one suspects basement, but without hard conclusive evidenced, admissible and recognized by a court of law and proving guilt, it’s worthless. Fun, intreging yes but nothing more.

Interesting speech!

You might have left out a very valuable
law phrase, ( circumstantial evidence) in which
the basement might be full of!
And many have been hung in court on the second
floor by it.

And the (beyond reasonable doubt) has to come from the jury
box!

Oh, did I mention, there’s more for the basement
if there’s room!

You haven’t seen my shirt yet!

Blind Bat

Here is a nice piece of evidence found in
a basement of Clutter!
In fact, it was used in court.

It was the leading piece of evidence on opening
court day, March 22.

I wonder why Zodiac picked March 22, too!

Perhaps he read, In Cold Blood?

Have any idea who was famous on Dec. 20?

Blind Bat

I don’t know Chief, it does have a circle in it!
I don’t know if it looks like a bat in that print
or not Chief!

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Blind Bat

…
The peek-a-boo stuff is good but it’s hardly conclusive. Actually until it’s explored it’s not conclusive. I would hesitate to even call it unique. I have had people send me poi’s artwork to look at that have included eyes with lashes on them. Yes, I know this has the added ‘peek’ part but what I’m saying is that it’s not necessarily unique. There is nothing new under the sun, everything gets re-hashed and recycled. The peek-a-boo phrase is commonly followed by ‘I see you’ i.e. I’ve found you. Derived from the game of hide n’ seek it’s a rather appropriate marketing/branding angle for a private investigator. The O’s as eyes is a fairly basic graphic adaptation and a reasonably obvious one given the subject matter and the use of the ‘peek’ phrase. The inclusion of the lashes, I venture to suggest, may well have been a graphic norm for the time. Today the same techniques and approaches are still used although the styling has changed and the inclusion of the obvious (i.e the lashes) isn’t always required. In fact it’s more often than not avoided as it would be considered too obvious and therefore not ‘clever’ enough. lol…

I thought of you tonight Trav. I play COD Ghosts online and you get to personalize your gear. There is a patch with the slogan "Peek-a-Boo". The patch is a big eye with lashes. I kid you not. And of course, I am not saying it inspired Zodiac.

Haha I was just getting ready to play Ghost and don’t like the new COD and will have to look for the patch as well.

I know the patch you’re talking about.

I think, typically, if someone is going to draw and eye on it’s own, they will include eyelashes. And the peek-a-boo phrase is not exactly unique to the Zodiac.

Back in the early eighties my company had an advertising campaign in the newspapers and the word lOOK with eyes and lashes was used to draw attention to us. It seemed a common theme anytime you got two OOs together bang in a couple of eyes for attention. But this Peek-A-Boo and its association with the area and the players (belli) is an extraordinary find, it’s very exciting. Where it leads is any ones guess. Not sure why this was never raised back in the early seventies when the peek a boo card first became public knowledge. Even from our favourite private investigator himself or his mate Belli, or anyone who had looked up his add.. surely they would have pinged to it. Pensive

I agree Mr. Lowe. Considering Belli, an investigator, S.F….it’s definitely worth considering.

It would seem as if Zodiac were influenced by some older material. Does this make him older or did Daddy have this stuff around. One of the reasons Blind Bat mentioned why he shared. You never know!

Back in the early eighties my company had an advertising campaign in the newspapers and the word lOOK with eyes and lashes was used to draw attention to us. It seemed a common theme anytime you got two OOs together bang in a couple of eyes for attention. But this Peek-A-Boo and its association with the area and the players (belli) is an extraordinary find, it’s very exciting. Where it leads is any ones guess. Not sure why this was never raised back in the early seventies when the peek a boo card first became public knowledge. Even from our favourite private investigator himself or his mate Belli, or anyone who had looked up his add.. surely they would have pinged to it. Pensive

I would like to clue this forum in on something.

One can take words and phrases, even sentences,
and type them into the WEB…

From there, it explodes into many directions.
One direction leads to another.

This is how I found the Peek-A-Boo ad.

It is better than peeking through the pines.
But go ahead and google, peeking or peek through
the pines for an example, and see where it
lands you.

Rewrite man for the press,is a great thing to google.
That is what Zodiac did.
He re-wrote others work, and presented
as his own.

If you think a staff writer…
Wrong, the editor-rewriter took the staff writers
notes and wrote the article.

This is the Zodiac speaking! LMAO

It was not the Zodiac speaking, it was
Roy Huggins speaking through
Dr. Richard Kimble in some of
the Zodiac’s letters.

When you read something, ask yourself this,
where, or have I ever read this somewhere
before now.

I am a literary archeologist, I dig it up.
I am very familiar with the writers vocabulary.
And so was Zodiac.
That’s why his writings are riddled with
the writers vocabulary.

When I first read his letters, I knew his
writings were a joke, written in (satire) style
which is proper for murder mystery writers.
And the Tabloids.

Remember his one letter… Before I give you
the (bad) or sad news, I won’t to give you,
See the two faces? Sad and Smiley.
Look up the satire face, perhaps you
remember that face when watching
satire matinees on Saturdays.
Those words Zodiac wrote… Before I give you
the bad news…[ ] tells us he read or watched
satire movies!
Where would old black and white,
satire movies and songs lead us too?

Satire Confession Letter?
She was young,and beautiful-
But now she is dead-

What is the Genre of the 1963-67 Fugitive episodes?
Action, drama, mystery, adventure?
And the Zodiac’s Genres he studied
and acted out as an actor!

Scripts come first, then the production!
Zodiac had it all before him.
Others producers scripts.
He acted them out, then
he bragged about his performances through
his letters, using pieces of others script,
all syntaxed together in one big pile
of riddles.

Hope this helps.

Blind Bat…

This one always made me think of the Zodiac and his bomb.

Blind Bat ..To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is research. So are we dropping Z into which category. Remembering to add in the wheel of death to his scripts. How do you think he navigated his way to each letter or card. Did it just strike him on a whim whilst sitting in a waiting room reading a magazine or comic book or at a news stand or watching tv late at night with a few brews under his belt, or was it all pre planned and he went in search for material to add to the riddle and twist it into his words to keep his Ego in the papers and news.

Interesting stuff, espesucally the Peek a Boo & the eyes!

Ok, and the Bomb Photo is totally interesting! Do tell, hoe did you find it?
Thanks, Zamantha*