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Victor
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Hey, what’s that called when you criss-cross/combine words like like? I know it has a term all of it’s own.

I should know it but I don’t and I too think it has it’s own name. That’s why I called it a graphic trick because I can’t remember what it’s called or if it is called something. It’s probably got the prefix ‘trans’ in it…maybe.

Cross words: see http://omegafoundation.siriuscomputing. … agrams.htm Example: tenet.

"Jerry, just remember, it’s not a lie if you believe it." George Costanza from Seinfeld

 
Posted : August 14, 2013 4:19 am
traveller1st
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Thanks Victor,

Seems stupidly obvious now that it’s said lol.


I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.

 
Posted : August 14, 2013 4:25 am
Tahoe27
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Scroll about 3/4 of the way down to "Greek Zodiac Cross"…probably nothing, but worth looking at I suppose:

http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/catego … in-a-knot/


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : August 14, 2013 4:38 am
traveller1st
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Coincidentally enough I made a Zodiac cross from the Z13. Didn’t tell me anything but it’s always interested me that Z used 17 columns in the Z340 because an odd number allows for symmetry whereas an even number doesn’t. Likewise in the Z13.

Interesting that the Greek Zodiac Cross had 13 symbols whereas we are used to the standard 12 but that was challenged in the last few years to possibly amend it to 13.

Possibly someone interested in ancient languages and the cryptic derivatives thereof might be aware of.

Sorrynocipher – 13 characters.

That being said. I like Victor’s word ‘whimsy’

He just did things, things that make sense but it’s ordinary sense. Like the examples below. He wrote dictated by the edges on the envelope construction. One half of a full cross or X so it’s not that suspicious to me that he decided to do one with a full cross or X. Especially considering that it makes up the major part of his own symbol. It’s the decision to see that opportunity or to use it to ‘mix’ things up that I find interesting. This guy might not have the best eye but he had an eye for detail that to me seems, well intuitive if not also learned.


I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.

 
Posted : August 14, 2013 5:17 am
smithy
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Did someone say palindromes? I was thinking it.

 
Posted : August 14, 2013 2:25 pm
Welsh Chappie
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…I still would like to get feedback on what people think about this. Why he wrote it (It’s not like Zodiac wrote Ciphers with every letter). Why he wrote ‘Sorry no Cipher’ on the inside of the envelope rather than in the letter itself. And finally, why in a criss-cross style that appears to form the letter X? (In the card itself he had wrote ‘By Fire, By Gun, By Knife, By Rope – Slaves Paradice’ in such a way that it appears to form a letter H).

Having bluffed about his name hidden in a cipher, quoting The Mikado, etc…I’d chalk that up to whimsy.

I happen to think Zodiac wasn’t bluffing when he said "In this Cipher is my Identity." As I have stated elsewhere, I think there is, at the very least, a clue to his identity contained within the deciphered text itself somewhere. As Tahoe said earlier in this thread, his deciphered message was a whole babbling load of rubbish. I mean me personally, I can’t see why Zodiac would go to the time and effort of encrypting such junk. I think it maybe a cipher within a cipher if you know what I mean. In other words, deciphering the top layer of coded symbols was only the beginning, once the junk message is revealed, somewhere hidden within that is a clue to his identity in, for example, a Rail Fence type of encryption. This is speculation obviously, and is simply my opinion.

"So it’s sorta social. Demented and sad, but social, right?" Judd Nelson.

 
Posted : August 15, 2013 11:11 pm
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