Awesome! It always reminded me of a "Peanuts" font. So I looked at many of those. Cool to come across that Vasa!

How did you do it? Type in the phrase in a search….pure luck?

I still don’t think this was Zodiac, but that doesn’t mean I don’t think it’s a great find and a good feeling it must have been to come across it.

Sort of…since I began looking at links I have thought there were certain things that Z did/wrote that are influenced by his readings/surroundings. I started out with his cipher symbols and worked into his "patterns". My thought was that he uses phrases that are very common at the time to hide who he really was. He wasn’t a real deep thinker, so he gleaned what he could from many places. The paste cards have phrases that, while pieced together, can be found through font and words.

I actually think this linking to another comic lends a lot of credibility to it being an actual Z communication…especially combined with the fact the FBI is still withholding a similar paste card…the "DIES APRIL" card.

I don’t think a copycat from back in the day would have had the knowledge of Z using comics in his communications….that or it is just a really crazy coincidence…..

I am a researcher at heart and do a lot in my line of work so I have a bit of an odd approach at it and it has worked for me very well over the years.

Thank you for the explanation.

I do believe the same person who wrote the Halloween card wrote the Fk I’m Crackproof card–so I could see how that could quite possibly be the case.

My problem with this being Zodiac is in July of 1970, Zodiac had already claimed "13" victims. This was never published.

I don’t see Zodiac still claiming "13" three months later. He liked to up his ante.

"The pace isn’t getting any slower"? Um….yes, it apparently is.

Thank you for the explanation.

I do believe the same person who wrote the Halloween card wrote the Fk I’m Crackproof card–so I could see how that could quite possibly be the case.

My problem with this being Zodiac is in July of 1970, Zodiac had already claimed "13" victims. This was never published.

I don’t see Zodiac still claiming "13" three months later. He liked to up his ante.

"The pace isn’t getting any slower"? Um….yes, it apparently is.

Possibly, but my problem with that is the previous count was released to the public a while before this was written and for a copycat to get it right except for the count would be odd.

I am not even convinced the numbers are a body count, though at this point I don’t have another explanation for them. I am still a newbie at this…

Thank you for the explanation.

I do believe the same person who wrote the Halloween card wrote the Fk I’m Crackproof card–so I could see how that could quite possibly be the case.

My problem with this being Zodiac is in July of 1970, Zodiac had already claimed "13" victims. This was never published.

I don’t see Zodiac still claiming "13" three months later. He liked to up his ante.

"The pace isn’t getting any slower"? Um….yes, it apparently is.

Possibly, but my problem with that is the previous count was released to the public a while before this was written and for a copycat to get it right except for the count would be odd.

I am not even convinced the numbers are a body count, though at this point I don’t have another explanation for them. I am still a newbie at this…

I am also of the opinion that if Z were as egotistical and self centered as he seemed to be, he would have addressed a copycat in his letters.

He doesn’t seem like one that would let another share his limelight.

On June 30th it was published Zodiac’s victim count was "12".

As of October, a copy-cat would be wise to come up with "13". They simply did not know Zodiac had already claimed this back in July. There is no way Zodiac would still claim "13"…"haven’t got anyone else guys"! Zodiac could have actually been at 16—so the only thing this person got right is that 13 came after 12.

Sure Zodiac would let others into the mix. All it does is help his cause. There were thousands of proven fakes yet Zodiac never seemed to have a problem with any of them…or at least never expressed it.

On June 30th it was published Zodiac’s victim count was "12".

As of October, a copy-cat would be wise to come up with "13". They simply did not know Zodiac had already claimed this back in July. There is no way Zodiac would still claim "13"…"haven’t got anyone else guys"! Zodiac could have actually been at 16—so the only thing this person got right is that 13 came after 12.

Sure Zodiac would let others into the mix. All it does is help his cause. There were thousands of proven fakes yet Zodiac never seemed to have a problem with any of them…or at least never expressed it.

Right, but this is dated October and his other counts had jumped by multiples IIRC. I would think this is something a copycat would not miscalculate. I could see it being an issue if it were above the number Z had put in another confirmed letter but not an issue since it was still higher than the last but the same as the next.

Is there another reason besides that to discount it? I know it is a paste letter, but it seems to have many Z characteristics.

June 30 – 12
July 24 – 13

Oct 5 – 13
Oct 30 – threatens 14

March – 17+

June 30 – 12
July 24 – 13

Oct 5 – 13
Oct 30 – threatens 14

March – 17+

Guessing you meant July 26 – 13, but either way, that letter was in the public well prior to the paste card stating it was 13.

Is it because it’s a paste card the main reason this has been ruled out as a Z confirmed communication?

I really do have an appreciation for those that have put a hell of a lot more time into this than I have, I just want to understand why some have been ruled out and have not really found a clear explanation searching for it anywhere.

Z said he was going to change things up numerous time, so why wouldn’t he change up communication styles? There is enough in the paste cards and halloween card to connect him to them being that the available search methods back then would not have revealed the things we are able to find today.

I look at it like the forensic evidence they use in a sense. Some, back then, had the foresight to keep certain aspects of evidence with the understanding that future tech may be able to solve with evidence that was previously unable to be properly "deciphered" due the the tech available at the time.

Why could Z not have changed up his method of communication simply to throw off investigations as he did with his disguises?

That coupled with the fact he is only credited with 5 kills, why are the numbers even associated with a body count at all? I have not seen any explanation for that either. Just speculation that nobody has found them or he was just saying he had to make people think there were more. WhY are the numbers even associated with body count?

I guess for me, nobody knows who Z is/was or what he does for a living. What if Z did a stint in prison for a few months and couldn’t kill during that time so his count couldn’t have gone up? What if Z was on the road or moving or had to go to some military training during this period?

Is he egotistical enough to wait until it had to send a communication? Or would he have sent one immediately coming out to show he was back? Was he on med and didn’t want to write for fear he would use his "daily" handwriting so he pasted when he got out?

Really, who knows?

I say this because the very next confirmed communication was the Halloween card directly after this one and it clearly referenced a comic as this one did.

Why the jump to comics?

Yes…July 26th. Sorry about that.

I have no idea what the number actually represented, but from what I know about Zodiac, he would not have revealed "13" twice in that time span.

He informed of us increases…not informing all counts stayed the same. The public knew of 12, but LE and the newspapers knew about 13 and maybe that is why it was considered fake–Zodiac had already been there, but only they knew that.

Yes…July 26th. Sorry about that.

I have no idea what the number actually represented, but from what I know about Zodiac, he would not have revealed "13" twice in that time span.

He informed of us increases…not informing all counts stayed the same. The public knew of 12, but LE and the newspapers knew about 13 and maybe that is why it was considered fake–Zodiac had already been there, but only they knew that.

Wish you were in Atlanta…i feel like we could have a fun conversation over some dinner with my family and a few bottles of wine….

I truly appreciate your responses.

Yes…July 26th. Sorry about that.

I have no idea what the number actually represented, but from what I know about Zodiac, he would not have revealed "13" twice in that time span.

He informed of us increases…not informing all counts stayed the same. The public knew of 12, but LE and the newspapers knew about 13 and maybe that is why it was considered fake–Zodiac had already been there, but only they knew that.

Check PM.

Here is why I think a lot of what I do. I mention this communique in this link as well:

viewtopic.php?f=78&t=168&p=258#p258

If I’m ever in Atlanta, I’ll give you a shout out.

Didn’t TK refer to himself as "FC". (freedom club or freedom ??? Can’t remember where I read this).

Didn’t TK refer to himself as "FC". (freedom club or freedom ??? Can’t remember where I read this).

Yes it was the FBI that dubbed him UNABOMBER. Ted himself signed his letters "FC", and even put "FC" etched into some of his pipe bombs. Some wondered if this stood for "Fuck Computers" but Ted claimed it stood for "Freedom Club".

Some people have sais that maybe "Fk" was meant to mean "Fuck", but Zodiac had said "bullshit" in his letters. "Fk" to me does not indicate a swear word. It seems to me Zodiac is calling himself "Fk", and considering Ted would call himself "FC", that is interesting.