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Albany NY Medical Center letter/cipher August 1973

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Tahoe27
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Looks at the L’s in "killing" and the L’s in "Hills" in the top example.

Some of the N’s too. Obviously there are traits that don’t look alike…it just caught my eye.

Thanks for posting this Trav—went ahead and resized it.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : November 29, 2017 3:03 am
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– Durst

– Albany

Not all of the N’s are the same, of course, but some appear to have that little loop at the base.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : November 29, 2017 3:11 am
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Thanks for posting this Trav—went ahead and resized it.

Thanks T. :)


I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.

 
Posted : November 29, 2017 3:15 am
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Due to the high res pic I looked closer into the cipher..it appears to contain one trigram, six bigrams and three double letters.

However, the letter distribution is odd..approximately 18 different symbols and of those three occur with frequencies of 10%, 14% and 16%. This is quite unusual, imo.

Also, one symbol occurs five times over a sequence of 12 symbols only (42%), however doesn’t occur in the rest of the cipher at all (38 symbols). As we deal with homophones there either may exist another symbol for the same letter or the whole cipher is a hoax.

Not sure if the transcription is perfectly correct, but here is a prepared file:

QT

*ZODIACHRONOLOGY*

 
Posted : December 8, 2017 3:50 pm
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There were some older comments here about uncertainty of the name.

With the cleaned up version from viewtopic.php?f=77&t=60&start=120#p53478 (ie, not the "re-transcribed" one), you can clearly decode "con_iedhenly".

The only possible word match is connie, which gives the full text "Connie D. Henly, Albany Medical Center – This only the beginning"

Searched en-US_english.dic with regular expression ^con[a-z]{1}ie$", one match.

This cipher was featured in The hunt for the Zodiac Killer episode 4.

Unfortunately, that show seriously lacks attention. They seem to have fully forgotten about the middle initial.

My Z340 widget for the two-ciphers hypothesis: https://martinlindhe.github.io/zodiac-widget/

 
Posted : December 11, 2017 6:42 am
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With the cleaned up version from http://zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.p … 120#p53478 (ie, not the "re-transcribed" one), you can clearly decode "con_iedhenly".

The cleaned up version is crap imo. The 7th symbol appears to be a unique so that letter is uncertain.

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : December 12, 2017 3:46 pm
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The cleaned up version is crap imo.

It was based on (which clearly omits visual information, gradients and such): http://www.zodiacciphers.com/uploads/4/ … tter_1.png

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : December 12, 2017 3:52 pm
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I think they are all based on the very bad original copy:

The various attempts to clean up the cipher are misguided when they result in unfounded assumptions about that the symbols are.

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : December 12, 2017 6:43 pm
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I think they are all based on the very bad original copy:

There is an improved copy, as you pointed out earlier:

Dunno if anyone noticed this before, but there is an improved copy of the letter and cipher in Lyndon Lafferty’s book (The Zodiac Killer Cover-Up) on page 427:

http://i.imgur.com/P5fr1lN.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bHQXphz.jpg

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : December 12, 2017 8:27 pm
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Yes, but there is evidence that Lafferty embellished his copy with his own misguided attempts to restore the image. Marie points out some evidence of tracing here:

viewtopic.php?f=77&t=60&p=53413&hilit=trace#p53413

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : December 12, 2017 8:33 pm
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Yes, but there is evidence that Lafferty embellished his copy with his own misguided attempts to restore the image. Marie points out some evidence of tracing here:

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtop … ace#p53413

Digital watermarking could save so much unnecessary time and effort. While with no malice intended (certainly) revised stuff gets passed off as legit…and we have what we have now with this Albany letter.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : December 12, 2017 11:05 pm
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Yes, but there is evidence that Lafferty embellished his copy with his own misguided attempts to restore the image. Marie points out some evidence of tracing here:

viewtopic.php?f=77&t=60&p=53413&hilit=trace#p53413

I see, that is bad practice.

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : December 13, 2017 4:29 pm
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I’ll just throw out my thinking re the name in the code, I agree that the surname is most likely HENLY, however I’m at a loss as to how Doranchak settled on Connie for the first name. However there is some room for manouvre here. Perhaps we can cross reference here and find the most logical answer.

I have the first 12 symbols down as the name. Immediately thereafter is ALBANY MEDICAL CENTER. (2 different symbols for C)
When those values are slotted into back into the first 12 symbols, the last 4 are ENLY.

According to the FBI the words after ALBANY MEDICAL CENTER are either THIS IS ONLY BEGINNING or THIS ONLY BEGINNING. These amount to 19 or 17 letters respectively.I come up with a count of 18 symbols so do not know where the exact error is but the bones of that statement is there. Regardless, the first word is "THIS" apparently, giving a value of "H" for what I call the " open book" symbol. This symbol also comes before "ENLY" hence HENLY.
There is a problem however because from the initial insertion of values we have "NLY" in "Only" however the "open book" symbol comes before these also, given an alternative value of O.
So the open book symbol is either an H or O or both. HENLY/HNLY/OENLY/ONLY.

So as far as the name goes we have _ H _ _ _ E _ HENLY, or _ O _ _ _ E _ OENLY. Fixed values. or does the open book symbol have values of both O and H ?
The "lightening bolt" symbol is definitely E so that’s the 6th letter.
In the word "medical" the value for the "4" symbol is C. The "4" is closed at the top. The first symbol in the code, while not exactly the same also looks like a "4" but is open at the top.
But it’s quite possibly the same giving…. CH _ _ _ E _ or CO _ _ _ E_.
There is also an argument if the first word after Center is "THIS," that the final letter is S, hence…CH _ _ _ ES HENLY or CO_ _ _ ES OENLY.

Don’t know that I’m 100% corect…..anyone see things differently?

There is a town named Cohotes just outside of Albany i believe.
I’m way up North and its a big state so I’ve only ever gone down there for a plane or a hospital visit to the Albany Medical Center but I’m pretty sure I’ve seen that town on the highway signs. I think you got Something for sure.

 
Posted : January 21, 2018 6:26 am
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Yes, I had stumbled onto that, but think it is nothing more than a clean up of the original which I traced to Voight, but he does not say how he got his hands on it (anyone know?).

I can’t remember how I got it.

 
Posted : February 8, 2018 7:28 am
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https://www.timesunion.com/upstate/arti … o-15884732

QT

*ZODIACHRONOLOGY*

 
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