Interesting. I wonder how they traced a floppy disc through the mail back to him? That seems harder than tracing a post online, which has an electronic address stored.

Interesting. I wonder how they traced a floppy disc through the mail back to him? That seems harder than tracing a post online, which has an electronic address stored.

As far as I know and imagine, they looked into the hidden code, the stuff that isn’t really deleted, even when you delete everything on the disc. Still the case today. Delete doesn’t mean erase. So they found his logon details, not even something anyone would think to remove from a floppy disc back then.

Mind you, did you know that every xerox printer/copier produces a series of pale dots on every copy specific to that device? That’s been the standard since the 90’s (or forever?), for commercial use anyway. I know this because we were looking at colour proofs from our first colour copier/printer under lupe’s (magnifiers) because we first wanted to check that they were true CMYK and to decide how accurate they were colourwise. It was then we spotted this overlay of very pale yellow dots, imperceivable without magnification. We contacted Xerox and asked them about this, THe above explanation was what they gave, it was a security code specific to the device to try to counteract currency counter-fitting.

Interesting. I wonder how they traced a floppy disc through the mail back to him? That seems harder than tracing a post online, which has an electronic address stored.

As far as I know and imagine, they looked into the hidden code, the stuff that isn’t really deleted, even when you delete everything on the disc. Still the case today. Delete doesn’t mean erase. So they found his logon details, not even something anyone would think to remove from a floppy disc back then.

Mind you, did you know that every xerox printer/copier produces a series of pale dots on every copy specific to that device? That’s been the standard since the 90’s (or forever?), for commercial use anyway. I know this because we were looking at colour proofs from our first colour copier/printer under lupe’s (magnifiers) because we first wanted to check that they were true CMYK and to decide how accurate they were colourwise. It was then we spotted this overlay of very pale yellow dots, imperceivable without magnification. We contacted Xerox and asked them about this, THe above explanation was what they gave, it was a security code specific to the device to try to counteract currency counter-fitting.

No, I never knew that. What strength magnification is needed to see the dots?

Not that high of a magnification. I said imperceivable but that’s because we hadn’t perceived them till we looked under magnification. You can see them with the naked eye once you know they are there.

Here is another Zodiac-like post, if anyone’s interested. This was in a Benicia Herald site on Zodiac. The "gravatar" with it was a skull & crossbones on a black background. The tops of the bones were bent like little "z’s". Note how obsessed he is with talking about the life of Zodiac, and that he knows Dec. 20 is a Zodiac anniversary, about Hartnell’s car, the maps–all things you’d expect a "zodiologist" to know, but this guy is mocking zodiologists. So, how does a "non-zodiologist" know these things?
1. Even the most experienced and highly trained criminal profilers acknowledge that profiling is more art than science. This is another way of saying that when you try to apply the generalizations of psychology to specific unknown individuals, it is utterly impossible to control for even a fraction of the variables that affect behavior. Any profiler who doesn’t acknowledge this is just a quack. I base this view primarily on my innate skepticism of most things; I performed no searches of the legitimate literature on the topic. If someone would like to argue the point, I encourage it.
Zodiac is dead. If you cling to the hope that he’s alive and you might be the person who catches him, I suggest that you get comfortable in your mom’s moldy basement, stock up on ganja and DiGiorno, and get a new keyboard to replace that one with the overused CAPS LOCK key. If I have a few spare minutes, I’ll look for you on the various fora every December 20 and see what you’re up to.
As I possibly described in part one of the profile, Zodiac is rumored to have had ties to a PETA precursor group somewhere in the high wheat country of western Kansas, perhaps very close to the small town of Holcomb. I got my start on the path to this tentative conclusion when I discovered a previously overlooked piece of evidence: Zodiac’s right Wing Walker shoe. I am not currently prepared to explain the circumstances of this discovery, as it may have been found on federal BLM land, but the shoe has been examined and authenticated by somebody in some agency someplace. Please remember that many to most of the statements herein are complete dreck. Zodiac was possibly terrified of small insects as a child. It has been suggested that it may have been the sight of scurrying creatures small enough to chew on his eardrums that did more than anything else to steer him toward his eventual fate. Each of his thumbs had a highly flexible metacarpal phalangeal joint. He ventured into two-bit seedy dives in the worst part of every town he passed through in order to hone his fighting skills. It was in one such place that he almost met his doom when the bartender shot at him point-blank with an old 10 gauge his grandpa had used to hunt geese out of season on Suisun Bay. The gun misfired.
There are tantalizing hints of Zodiac’s passage in the dry summer of 1960 through many places around the arid southwest. In Needles, California, which sits across the mighty Colorado from Arizona, there was later discovered, carved in the riverbank silt at the spot made famous by Steinbeck’s “Grapes of Wrath,” a symbol eerily similar to the one Zodiac scrawled on his letters to Bay Area newspapers (and on the door of Bryan Hartnell’s Karmann Ghia).
If the Zodiac murders were happening now, who would the killer be? These crimes are to be treated here—in order to free our minds from the the stultifying atmosphere created by the anti-think mass media/politico-corporate complex—as a scourge of the current day, and we examine the characteristics that may lead us to Zodiac. He’s your neighbor, the friendly guy who’s always willing to help you unload large pieces of furniture but who invariably lets you know that he has a better way to do it. He’s your other neighbor–the guy who refuses to talk to anyone and takes his solitary meals in the backyard under an old mulberry tree, cradling a varmint gun in his lap in case the squirrels or pigeons bother him. He works at a mini market and buys all the Penthouse and Hustler magazines before they go on the rack. His job involves, as I said before, long-distance driving, usually along deserted roads across the high desert. Last year he tried to prospect for a local second-tier 1% motorcycle club–he didn’t make it, of course, but he still uses the slang he picked up, and this bothers some people. He is the proprietor of a bait shop near Steamboat Slough and refuses to sell jumbo minnows to any customer who does not first promise to render them unconscious with ice water before running that gleaming 1/0 hook through their lips. He is a five foot-six vice principal of the old school who calls everyone “slacker.” He gave up trying to grow hair years ago and now shines his pale, globe-like head with ski wax. He wears Pendleton® shirts hanging out with only the very top buttons fastened because he once read a book about the history of Los Angeles gangs. He’s your podiatrist, and he’s angry whether you know it or not.
Returning to the actual time of Zodiac’s activities, if you will consult any 60′s era gas station map you will discover—with the aid of a ruler and pencil—that the driving distance from North M and Vine in Needles to the summit of Mt. Diablo is 555 miles. If you add that to the 111 miles from Washington and Cherry Streets in San Francisco to an unspecified spot alongside US 50 west of Cameron Park, you get 666 miles. These are possibly coincidences, but as hardwired pattern-seekers, you want to accept it, so I suggest that you do.
We could, under some circumstances, know incontrovertibly that Zodiac can definitely be placed in the Bay Area by 1961, perhaps. Legends of possibly unexplained phenomena involving gravitational anomalies, mysterious ice blue (or white or gray or silver or pearl-colored) pursuit cars skulking along dark roads, as well as several nearly-confirmed disappearances within a 50 mile radius of Samuel P. Taylor State Park from January 1955 to July 1967 tend to support this contention. This kind of behavior, according to several persons identifying themselves as experts, often escalates to homicide. That these incidents occurred within a nearly 8,000 square mile area over a twelve and-a-half year time frame just about nails it down. Additionally, the socio-chronological progression along a vaguely described continuum of moral permissiveness in that era set the stage for all kinds of undifferentiated behavioral permutations. The time was ripe, and by the end of this period, Zodiac was ready to take his twisted games to the ultimate level. © Pseudocognitive
http://beniciaherald.me/the-zodiac-case/
1. Pseudocognitive (@Pseudocognitive)
December 16, 2011 at 9:07 am

Interesting stuff about the possible Kane post, and the 1997 message. Thanks for all the responses. After asking the question I did more searching and found this on Websleuths about someone going by TAAM responding to a youtube video, claiming to be a part of a team zodiac:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84360

Looks like it has been discussed somewhat already, but in case anyone else hadn’t seen it.

I remember that. Pretty strange, and I would not be surprised if TAAM was telling the truth.

Born in 1972. Airtight alibi here.

Take a look at this thread at Zodiackiller.com, which Zodiac researcher Mike Kelleher started back in the early 2000’s to obtain opinions as to whether Zodiac was dead or alive. There are a number of strange replies there from people who never posted anywhere else on the site ever again; some of those replies make me wonder.

http://www.zodiackiller.com/mba/zt/1009.html

By Algy LIttle (netcache-2002.public.lawson.webtv.net – 209.240.198.61) on Monday, June 02, 2003 – 01:09 pm:

"Z" is both dead and alive. There was more than one. One for sure died in the early seventies. The other I believe is uh, out of circulation for quite some time. Whether he’ll make any death bed confession, seems a long shot. There are still a few folks around who know things. Sometimes facts are deliberately hidden away!

Interesting?

I was born on the 7th anniversary of Cheri Jo’s murder. 30th Oct 1973. So I wondered briefly if it was my dad.

As for myself, birthdate and age not withstanding, I’ve never been to the USA. Not even sure I could find it on a map. I imagine it’s quite a small country filled mostly with dyslexic ‘immigants’ [sic] (Mo from the Simpsons). Color? pajamas? wtf? lol

Ahhh you know I luvs ya’s you crazy Yanks.

Hey you share a birthday with my father who graduated from HS in Huntington Beach, CA – born Oct. 30, 1948. Hello Scorpio! And yes you both share the ominous date of CJB murder. Ugh I hope that one is solved!!!!! I guess my dad was one year younger than CJB when she died. Wish he were still around so I could ask him if he remembered hearing about her murder.

And yes you know you love us Yankees with our tennis shoes, big tummies, large teeth, and loud mouths. I spent some time in South Yorks/Sheffield. I learned there much about the locals views toward Americans. They all thought I was French lol. I guess I don’t fit the steriotype – though everyone began to assume I love chocolate and croissants which is just fine by me

Take a look at this thread at Zodiackiller.com, which Zodiac researcher Mike Kelleher started back in the early 2000’s to obtain opinions as to whether Zodiac was dead or alive. There are a number of strange replies there from people who never posted anywhere else on the site ever again; some of those replies make me wonder.

http://www.zodiackiller.com/mba/zt/1009.html

By Algy LIttle (netcache-2002.public.lawson.webtv.net – 209.240.198.61) on Monday, June 02, 2003 – 01:09 pm:

"Z" is both dead and alive. There was more than one. One for sure died in the early seventies. The other I believe is uh, out of circulation for quite some time. Whether he’ll make any death bed confession, seems a long shot. There are still a few folks around who know things. Sometimes facts are deliberately hidden away!

Interesting?

Well, I have toyed with the idea from time to time that if Z is still around, he might be tempted to join one of the boards and post some cryptic crap which would be immediately laughed off…and then he’d have a chuckle to himself.

However, I certainly don’t think he would post anything like the above. I think TV’s response to the guy is pretty much on the money. Vaguely conspiratorial hints which anyone can make without much effort.

Generally, I think the idea of Z posting on a Z board is something which appeals to most Z buffs – but the chances are pretty slim, all things said and done. If I had to come off the fence, I’d say he’s dead – and has been dead for decades.

An interesting subject, I have also seen Tahoe’s amazing connection to the 1954 Wheel of Doom comic.
My question is also similar. Has he posted, and has he drowned people, or committed arson?
By gun, rope,knife, fire, water..
It would seem that since he wrote the SF Chron in 1970 alleging he would use different M.O’s, one might explore this angle.
Finally, would the real killer be tech saavy? I believe so. I also believe he would post on zodiac sites.
I was 9 when the Manson and Zodiac horrors became all the media spoke about.
My parents were fearful, as we all were.

The zodiac was a media hungry man. If, he were alive or lived beyond the time, I could see him being tech savvy. I could see him getting online and reading about the case. Would he have been bold enough to join a message board about himself? Why not? What better way to stay informed and to play if he wanted to. I think it would have been dangerous for him to have played. Slip ups can and do occur.

Soze

The zodiac was a media hungry man. If, he were alive or lived beyond the time, I could see him being tech savvy. I could see him getting online and reading about the case. Would he have been bold enough to join a message board about himself? Why not? What better way to stay informed and to play if he wanted to. I think it would have been dangerous for him to have played. Slip ups can and do occur.

Soze

soze R U Z

The zodiac was a media hungry man. If, he were alive or lived beyond the time, I could see him being tech savvy. I could see him getting online and reading about the case. Would he have been bold enough to join a message board about himself? Why not? What better way to stay informed and to play if he wanted to. I think it would have been dangerous for him to have played. Slip ups can and do occur.

Soze

soze R U Z

Sirs —

I would like to express my consternation concerning the suggestion that this is the Zodiac speaking but I am afraid that SOZE is always the usual suspect. I guess if I had wanted to be crackproof I should have chosen a better screen name.

Roger