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Thanks for the vote of confidence, james. Yep, that’s on my list and thank you for not posting anything overtly identifiable. What I find interesting in this person’s frequent use of the cross/circle symbol is that it all pre-dates Z’s activities and, like Z, he uses it in a multitude of contexts. It’s used as a film leader, gunsight (in movies about the Kennedy assassination), dream catcher, mandala, lightbulb filament etc.

Here’s one without any overt Z connection but one I find interesting and one of many that intermingles violence and female sexuality (the nail driven into the buttocks is a nice touch…). It’s a representation of the infamous 1947 Black Dahlia murder case:

Here’s how he describes it in a 1973 interview:

Interviewer: "Well there are a lot of things I don’t know about you."

(This guy): "I have a lot of stories to tell."

Interviewer: "About the world. You mean people."

(This guy): "No, it’s another art form. I might project or assume the character of a personality. Like the person that’s producing this is the Black Dahlia, and it’s also the person that killed the Black Dahlia. Instead of being individual actors before me, I’m using objects and characters that aren’t defined as separate performing characters. Mental attitudes. The relationship of victim to assassin. Positive to negative. But they’re both lovers. I mean, the Black Dahlia is loose within the structure of the attack of the man who had destroyed her. It’s all basically love or passion that’s been distorted and altered. Changed because of social or cultural imposition. But what I would get back from the culture of this society would be hate. Which, you know, isn’t it at all…"

 
Posted : January 10, 2014 10:22 pm
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Here’s another collage/self-portrait that I found rather disturbing when I discovered it at the UC Berkeley Bancroft Library… I feel OK posting it since this individual has already helped me to shield his identity. I obscured the child’s name written on this side.

It is a photo of the individual pasted onto the back of a photo of his only child as a young child and artfully obscured. I am not sure of the date and wish I had paid more attention to his child’s age in the photo but the child was born in 1963, dating the reverse photo to sometime in the mid to late ’60s. This individual has often refused to be photographed and there are simply no pictures to be found of him during his social withdrawal period from 1967-1971. It appears to me to be a "selfie" but I have no idea of the context on the photo.

Interestingly enough, the curator at the UC Berkeley Library told me that he had met the individual when he was invited to pick up the items for this collection at his home. The first thing he told me about his visit was that "I wasn’t scared of him", which I thought was odd but was probably due to the individual’s reputation for being difficult and demanding to work with.

 
Posted : January 11, 2014 8:35 am
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Here’s another nifty assemblage/sculpture creation… If it’s too graphic, moderators can delete the image or I can blur it.

It’s obviously a dismembered child in a highchair but it apparently is supposed to represent the electric chair execution of child killer, Caryl Chessman.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caryl_Chessman

Of interest, Herb Caen actually commented on this work in one of his articles, calling it "ghoulish" or something along those lines. This individual discussed his dislike for Caen in interviews. He accuses Caen of taking the term "beatnik", which he is generally credited with coining, from another person.

http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/art … 018725.php

 
Posted : January 12, 2014 4:03 pm
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Removed pending audio upload.

 
Posted : January 12, 2014 7:35 pm
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Hi G… I really appreciate the contribution and voice is certainly relevant (although I’m not sure how we would even evaluate it since Nancy Slover is gone). I’m a bit uncomfortable having the name out there, however. Perhaps that’s not realistic after all of the stuff I’ve posted but I’d prefer that it at least require a little work to determine. I sent traveller a couple of voice samples from 1966 to see if just an audio sample could be posted instead. If anyone else knows how to do that, I’ll send them the links. The one you posted is cool but he was in his early 70s at the time and quite ill so it’s not totally representative of his voice. I do appreciate the help though. :)

 
Posted : January 12, 2014 10:23 pm
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Ok,

This is the only way I could figure out how to this for now. This is a link to my google drive. It will take you to a folder with 3 mp3 (audio) files for downloading or you can just click on them and listen in your web browser (I think, lol, it lets me do it anyway).

Two files of Entropy’s POI’s voice from 1966 and one file of the same but extracted from a 2005 video recording as found by GGluckman (thanks G).

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id= … sp=sharing


I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.

 
Posted : January 12, 2014 11:36 pm
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Awesome! Is there nothing traveller can’t do? :D :!: Thank you (and thank you, G)!

 
Posted : January 12, 2014 11:45 pm
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Just reviewed the recordings. The 2005 file sounds like one of the Chipmunks on speed. Theodore, maybe, or Simon. Not Alvin.

They were around in the 60’s, weren’t they? I believe they were part of the rock scene.

G

:)

 
Posted : January 12, 2014 11:59 pm
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Thanks G, let me fix that. Must have put the wrong one up. Ok, fixed.


I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.

 
Posted : January 13, 2014 12:04 am
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But I liked the Chipmunks.

Oh, well.

G

 
Posted : January 13, 2014 12:29 am
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A little late for the holidays, but here’s a lovely family Christmass card from this gentleman. Quite funny, actually. I’m unsure of the date but it appears to be from the early to mid 70s based on his son’s appearance. His son is wearing what appears to be an old military helmet on which is written "PRESS".

The individual had close connections with the Diggers, who not only created their own publications and newsletters but also printed items for other counterculture organizations such as Gaikowski’s Good Times. He also contributed mandalas and other artwork for the San Francisco Oracle, another underground newspaper. Yup, more holes…

 
Posted : January 13, 2014 7:35 pm
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Posted : January 15, 2014 2:50 am
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Here’s another that I’ve always found interesting… It’s entitled "Criminal Act". I’m not sure what it’s supposed to represent but the shooter’s head appears to be replaced with i ching hexagrams if I’m not mistaken.

The background framed picture very much reminds me of the 408 or 340 ciphers. It’s a bit hard to view here and it’s clearly not an actual cipher but the structure and spacing are eerily similar upon close examination.

 
Posted : January 16, 2014 5:57 pm
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For my own amusement, here’s a little bit about this guy’s two best childhood friends, whom he attended high school with in Wichita and all later moved to San Francisco, living very close to each other near the corner of Jackson & Fillmore Sts.

This is Dave Haselwood, now a Buddhist priest, modeling his "Killer" outfit for Halloween in 1965:

This is Michael McClure, a rather well-known beat poet, being filmed by this guy talking to lions…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djtmpdlXKEA#t=13

…and explaining how "Murder Can Be Beautiful":

http://www.blacklistedjournalist.com/column34.html

 
Posted : January 18, 2014 2:49 am
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Forgot to mention that both of these guys are listed as two of the "brothers and sisters" whose work is represented in the Digger Papers, published by the Diggers as a sort of manifesto in August, 1968. I believe that their artist friend may be the "Anonymous" at the end of the list as Anonymous is another one of his alter personae. In interviews he discusses attending meetings with the Diggers although the extent of his association is unclear. Some of the others credited include George Metesky, the New York City "Mad Bomber", Fidel Castro and Antonin Artaud, advocate of the "Theatre of Cruelty".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Metesky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatre_of_Cruelty

The Diggers, of course, were an anarchist organization advocating detachment from money and personal possessions and known for their setting up free stores as well as providing food for the throngs of people coming to San Francisco in the mid to late 60s. They are credited with coining the term "do your own thing". By 1968, however, they were becoming increasingly militant and many were carrying guns after numerous run ins and perceived persecution from SFPD. They were said to be "secretly arming themselves in preparation for clashes with the police".

The Diggers’ Zynchronicitous symbol is reminiscent of Z’s own personal symbol and his Mt. Diablo map. It also reminds me of this guy’s fascination with his teleidoscope in 1966, which also happens to be my avatar:

Some of the handwritten stuff in their archives is also kind of fascinating to me:

A lot of people have probably seen this speculative interpretation of the Halloween card symbol in relation to the Diggers’ symbol:

My apologies for going far off topic from the thread title. There is another good thread devoted to Stine’s belongings:

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1089

 
Posted : January 18, 2014 2:15 pm
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