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Welsh Chappie
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Don’t the letters tie all the crimes together and prove that they were committed by one person?

As far as I’m concerned, they do.

The witness descriptions are also consistent enough to indicate that the same man was the one responsible in all cases.

Do they really? In general I suppose the descriptions sound like the same guy, but the specific details given by witnesses don’t match up so well. Here’s two examples:

Weight:
Fouke Memo: 180 – 200lbs. vs Bryan Hartnell "Weighed two and a quarter, two fifty, somewhere in there"

Hair:
Hartnell: "It was brownish, ya’ know, dark brown hair. It hung down across his forehead" vs Fouke Memo "Light coloured hair, crew cut."

This ‘discrepancy’ could easily be down to the fallibility of human memory and eye witness fallibility. What is consistent though is the eye witness descriptions of the Zodiacs attire.

Jacket:
Hartnell: "He had on this cotton coat, like a windbreaker, and it’s got this little collar that the guys sometimes wear up, you know? It was dark blue." Fouke: "I noticed a white male adult dressed in a Derby, or three quarter waist length jacket with elastic at the waist and on the cuffs with regular flap down collar." (Fouke’s memo states the colour of this jacket was dark/Navy blue.)

Pants:
Hartnell: "He had on these pleated pants, these old type of suit pants, you know? They were either black or dark blue" Fouke: "Brown (rust brown) pleated pants, baggy at the rear"

I know many people question if the man Don saw was the Zodiac or just an innocent man walking down the street that night and point to lack of evidence to support the notion. I personally look at it this way: If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and sails on water like a duck then odds are…. Its a duck! Some people may wish to have it’s DNA submitted to a lab first before they accept that its a duck, but I personally would be happy from it’s appearance that it’s a duck.

"So it’s sorta social. Demented and sad, but social, right?" Judd Nelson.

 
Posted : December 16, 2013 7:15 pm
TommyT
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I wasn’t sure where to ask this question, so found this thread. But important question:

Is it reported anywhere, specifically, which eye hole of the hood did Bryan observe what was possibly Z’s hair?

 
Posted : February 25, 2019 8:21 pm
Quicktrader
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As far as I know there was only one hole for both eyes, showing the clip-on glasses on heavy rimmed ones plus some sweaty dark/brown, somehow slightly curly hair.

QT

*ZODIACHRONOLOGY*

 
Posted : February 26, 2019 1:28 am
Tahoe27
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I wasn’t sure where to ask this question, so found this thread. But important question:

Is it reported anywhere, specifically, which eye hole of the hood did Bryan observe what was possibly Z’s hair?

Curious TommyT….what are your thoughts on why which eye-hole would make a difference?


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : February 26, 2019 5:25 am
TommyT
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I wasn’t sure where to ask this question, so found this thread. But important question:

Is it reported anywhere, specifically, which eye hole of the hood did Bryan observe what was possibly Z’s hair?

Curious TommyT….what are your thoughts on why which eye-hole would make a difference?

Because it promotes two things:

1) If his hair is parted in the same direction as the sketch, then the bangs hanging down over the right eye would be consistent with the sketch had his hair eventually fallen with the placing of the mask. And,

2) Waterson Suspect had the exact same hair style around that time; same hair color etc and in the 80’s, has a receded version of such.

 
Posted : February 27, 2019 6:41 am
TommyT
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I wasn’t sure where to ask this question, so found this thread. But important question:

Is it reported anywhere, specifically, which eye hole of the hood did Bryan observe what was possibly Z’s hair?

Curious TommyT….what are your thoughts on why which eye-hole would make a difference?

Because two things:

1) If his hair is parted in the same direction as the sketch, then the bangs hanging down over the right eye would be consistent with the sketch had his hair eventually fallen with the placing of the mask. And,

2) Waterson Suspect had the exact same hair style around that time; same hair color etc and in the 80’s, has a receded version of such.

 
Posted : February 27, 2019 6:43 am
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