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So on the Hartnell car, what kinda pen was used? Also, why would Zodiac think to bring a pen?

One last thing. For the longest time I didn’t think the Real Zodiac committed the LB murder but then I saw the F and E on the car, dead on Zodiac.

 
Posted : April 16, 2017 7:02 am
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It was part of his plan, or so it would seem. I don’t think anyone can know for sure which kind of pen it was…only that it was a black permanent marker. Certainly something like the Sanford:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTF-Working-Vin … 2479744835


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : April 16, 2017 9:01 am
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I guess since he thought to bring a black, stitched hood, then him bringing a sharpie along to a murder doesn’t seem so weird. Actually, the whole thing seems weird.

 
Posted : April 16, 2017 9:27 am
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Bye bye fools
The killer was here.
Written on the cave wall with sharpie pen in the 1977 girl scouts murder.

1996, sharpie pen used to write the Ramsey ransom note.
Ransom note letters match in Z writings…

Photojournalist (Z suspect) uses sharpie pen to autograph his $1,000 book.
Same journalist knows/new all the characters in Z letters.
Same journalist is a film producer… To date.

 
Posted : December 3, 2017 5:09 am
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Photojournalist (Z suspect) uses sharpie pen to autograph his $1,000 book.
Same journalist knows/new all the characters in Z letters.
Same journalist is a film producer… To date.

Any more Clues on this – I dont know anything about and am intrigued!

 
Posted : December 3, 2017 6:33 am
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Has double LL’s in last name.
I just read up on the 1952 movie the sniper.
I noticed Washington and Mason Street on the Wikipedia info.
Is that where Z hailed the yellow cab?
I would sure believe Z based his crimes on this movie.
Of course his words and phrases are mostly from the Fugitive episodes.
That streaming tear on the sniper is very impressive.
Reminds me of the streaming tear on Mrs Nixon when Richard lost to Kennedy on the front cover of Life magazine.
Z being a photographer, had a good memory to copy a tear 8 years later and take credit.
To bad Z was not an original at anything he did.
Always had to impress by COPY.

 
Posted : December 3, 2017 6:46 am
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Just state who your suspect is BB.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : December 3, 2017 9:24 am
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Just state who your suspect is BB.

No doubt, the legendary & brilliant photographer, Don M.

 
Posted : December 3, 2017 12:21 pm
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So on the Hartnell car, what kinda pen was used? Also, why would Zodiac think to bring a pen?

One last thing. For the longest time I didn’t think the Real Zodiac committed the LB murder but then I saw the F and E on the car, dead on Zodiac.

A quick note, made an observation regarding the "f" and the "e" in "by knife"… you see the gap in the "e"? That gap is there because the hand he was writing with got in the way, and the only way this could have happened in the way that it did is if it was being written with the left hand.

It was written with a left hand.

The zodiac also seemed fairly comfortable, I mean, it would have taken time to write that, which is a risk, but it seems he felt comfortable enough to take the time to leave this note.

With most killers you ask "what did they do that they did not have to?" The answers can sometimes be reveling.

About the pen he used, this was a time before "sharpie", and there were only a few types of markers available, shouldn’t be hard to track down at least the type of pen used.

Out of curiosity, why is the type of pen significant to you?

 
Posted : December 3, 2017 5:26 pm
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Mea culpa, sharpie Has Been around since 1964.

Sharpie" was originally a name designating a permanent marker launched in 1964 by the Sanford Ink Company. The Sharpie also became the first pen-style permanent marker -Wikipedia

 
Posted : December 3, 2017 5:28 pm
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Just state who your suspect is BB.

And face that same hood?
My suspect is still kicking.
Speaking in riddles is safer.
I have given enough info to the point that some Google research should pop the last name with the double LL’s.

 
Posted : December 3, 2017 6:18 pm
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Just state who your suspect is BB.

Tahoe, did you google Pat Nixon and her tear?

 
Posted : December 3, 2017 6:26 pm
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Just state who your suspect is BB.

Tahoe, did you google Pat Nixon and her tear?

On the web it is stated that is was Paul S……. who took that picture you are refering to, no "LL" in his name :

https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/29625310029624347/

Hi, english is not my first language so please bear with me :)

 
Posted : December 3, 2017 8:04 pm
(@blind-bat)
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Just state who your suspect is BB.

Tahoe, did you google Pat Nixon and her tear?

On the web it is stated that is was Paul S……. who took that picture you are refering to, no "LL" in his name :

https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/29625310029624347/

Nope wasn’t him.

 
Posted : December 3, 2017 9:12 pm
Tahoe27
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If we can figure it out, so can he. We have been dealing with riddles for far too long. Maybe he’d smack you over the head with his walker. ;)


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : December 3, 2017 9:39 pm
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