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His first use of the term “Blue meannie” is April 20 1970

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In the My Name Is letter he writes “blue meannie” to refer to the police for the first time. I have seen people mention the Vanishing Point movie trailer as a potential source of inspiration for his use of it, especially to justify having Rick Marshall as a suspect, but filming started in summer 1970 and the trailer not aired until months later. So Vanishing Point can be removed as a reasoning for its use.

One thing I noticed, from that letter and onward he would never refer to the police as “pigs” anymore. He would call them just cops, “blue meannie” and “blue meannies”.

Other than the Beatles’ Blue Meanies I can find practically no use of the term other than for a mushroom.

So for whatever reason, starting in April 20 1970 he would start to use this term and stop using the term “pigs”.

 
Posted : January 4, 2021 3:45 am
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Blue Meanie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Mean … _Submarine)

Yellow Submarine (1968).

Mare Island builds, overhauls and trains crews for submarines.

www.zodiachalloweencard.com has a 400 paged book for free containing the super solution with an overarching explanation of the cards and more.

 
Posted : January 4, 2021 4:22 am
Richard Grinell
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In the My Name Is letter he writes “blue meannie” to refer to the police for the first time. I have seen people mention the Vanishing Point movie trailer as a potential source of inspiration for his use of it, especially to justify having Rick Marshall as a suspect, but filming started in summer 1970 and the trailer not aired until months later. So Vanishing Point can be removed as a reasoning for its use.

One thing I noticed, from that letter and onward he would never refer to the police as “pigs” anymore. He would call them just cops, “blue meannie” and “blue meannies”.

Other than the Beatles’ Blue Meanies I can find practically no use of the term other than for a mushroom.

So for whatever reason, starting in April 20 1970 he would start to use this term and stop using the term “pigs”.

People’s Park in Berkeley, California is a park located off Telegraph Avenue, bounded by Haste and Bowditch streets and Dwight Way, near the University of California, Berkeley. The park was created during the radical political activism of the late 1960s. The local Southside neighborhood was the scene of a major confrontation between student protesters and police on May 15th 1969. Reinforcements were called in from the Alameda County Sheriff’s Office, who arrived carrying shotguns and shells of buckshot. They wore pale blue jumpsuits and were quickly nicknamed the Blue Meanies.

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Posted : January 4, 2021 4:45 am
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I don’t think there is any deeper meaning than it’s just another pop culture reference he liked to use. "get your rocks off" was in a Bob Dylan song from 1965. I’ve always thought his spelling of "motorcicles" was parroting Arlo Guthrie’s pronunciation of the word in his 1967 "Motorcycle song".

https://youtu.be/DF_0iNiCFHw

 
Posted : January 4, 2021 5:28 am
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In the My Name Is letter he writes “blue meannie” to refer to the police for the first time. I have seen people mention the Vanishing Point movie trailer as a potential source of inspiration for his use of it, especially to justify having Rick Marshall as a suspect, but filming started in summer 1970 and the trailer not aired until months later. So Vanishing Point can be removed as a reasoning for its use.

One thing I noticed, from that letter and onward he would never refer to the police as “pigs” anymore. He would call them just cops, “blue meannie” and “blue meannies”.

Other than the Beatles’ Blue Meanies I can find practically no use of the term other than for a mushroom.

So for whatever reason, starting in April 20 1970 he would start to use this term and stop using the term “pigs”.

People’s Park in Berkeley, California is a park located off Telegraph Avenue, bounded by Haste and Bowditch streets and Dwight Way, near the University of California, Berkeley. The park was created during the radical political activism of the late 1960s. The local Southside neighborhood was the scene of a major confrontation between student protesters and police on May 15th 1969. Reinforcements were called in from the Alameda County Sheriff’s Office, who arrived carrying shotguns and shells of buckshot. They wore pale blue jumpsuits and were quickly nicknamed the Blue Meanies.

Thanks Richard, do you have a source regarding the use of that term? I don’t doubt it though considering the origin of the name.
There’s a lot of variables that align Z’s attitude to those of radicals, especially how the one time he goes out of his way to make sure an attack was not is is when one was from a far-left group.
Makes me wonder if he didn’t seek to join such groups to find another outlet for his urges, a bit like Kaczynski did with his own ideas later on.

 
Posted : January 4, 2021 5:38 am
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Also Yellow Submarine is a musical.

In it Pepperland is paradise.

The blue meanies hate music.

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Posted : January 4, 2021 6:30 am
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https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/art … 838786.php

https://www.nytimes.com/1971/05/16/arch … st-41.html

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“I simply cannot accept that there are, on every story, two equal and logical sides to an argument.” Edward R. Murrow.

 
Posted : January 4, 2021 1:25 pm
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I don’t think there is any deeper meaning than it’s just another pop culture reference he liked to use. "get your rocks off" was in a Bob Dylan song from 1965. I’ve always thought his spelling of "motorcicles" was parroting Arlo Guthrie’s pronunciation of the word in his 1967 "Motorcycle song".

https://youtu.be/DF_0iNiCFHw

Had that thought myself many years ago.


I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.

 
Posted : January 4, 2021 1:57 pm
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That’s quite a pickle.

 
Posted : January 4, 2021 2:44 pm
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