Another theory:

Just what if the Zodiac Killer was created to cover up illegal activities involving the local police in Vallejo and some of Dee’s associates. Now is it really believable Dee and Mike went out at 11:00 on the 4th of July to buy fireworks? Who sales fireworks that late? By that time of the night the festivities are over.

Now lets discuss the guest attendees at the "paint party. It is my experience most police officers know the town drug dealers and users. So, why would police officers be attendees at a paint party unless they were also some what involved with illegal drug activity. I’m puzzled.

I am under the impression that Darlene and Mike went to that location to "make out".

I have yet to see hard evidence that Darlene was a drug dealer, into the occult, into criminal activity, etc. A lot of rumors and hearsay and unsourced statements. By this time in 1969 up to 1/3 of all young adults used or had tried marijuana. I have seen nothing to show me that any of the Zodiac victims were involved in any significant criminal or drug activity.

Also when criminals kill drug rivals or informants, I have yet to see a case where they create a high publicity serial killer. That would have the effect of drawing more public and police attention to the crime.

I lived in the East Bay Area for twenty five-years. I have met drug dealers and members of the Hell’s Angels, both the Oakland Chapter and
the San Pablo Chapter. Dee and Mike are hardly drug dealers. Each couple the Zodiac attacked were doing the same thing, messing around.
Zodiac has morals, after all…

I lived in the East Bay Area for twenty five-years. I have met drug dealers and members of the Hell’s Angels, both the Oakland Chapter and
the San Pablo Chapter. Dee and Mike are hardly drug dealers. Each couple the Zodiac attacked were doing the same thing, messing around.
Zodiac has morals, after all…

I don’t think anyone was suggesting that Dee and/or Mike were drug dealers, but may have been recreational users and that’s what I mean when I’ve made reference in the past to Dee & Mike being out at the Spring waiting to score. I wouldn’t even consider this possibility if there was absolutely nothing to suggest they were not at BRS at random that night because the fact is, Mike said that Dee was flashing her headlights on and off and he claims he doesn’t know why. If she did so this, then she surely must be signalling someone that she is now there? That is quite a sensible thing to do now I think of it if. It would make sense, if she’d arranged to meet Citizen X out at the parking lot of BRS, that Dee may have suggested to him on the phone "You’ll know when it’s me as I will flash my headlights to let you know.

There’s also the rather coincidental timing of the Lake Herman Murders that just happen to occur literally minutes after Police have left the area having carried out a drug raid on a cottage out there. In fact Pierre Bidou states that just as they were pulling into the station’s car park to book the evidence (Cannabis) in that he heard the Benicia PD radio Dispatcher say over the radio that there had been a possible shooting out on Lake Herman Rd with two possible victims.

I think it was only decades later that Mike said anything about her flashing headlights. And they did not have enough money on them to buy drugs.

The police reports have Mike saying she may have been flashing her headlights after the shooting to get someone’s attention.

There was a paint party because a person whom I am related to got invited to that party. She didn’t attend.

There was a paint party because a person whom I am related to got invited to that party. She didn’t attend.

By all means, please elaborate…

On July 4, 1969, Dee came to Terry’s Waffle shop and invited a waitress to a party that night and said that, "she would come back to Terry’s." (this is a fact!) I recall a more recent interview on you-tube were Mike Mageau stated something about –him and Dee were going to SF to watch a movie that evening on July 4th. How can Dee be in two places? If you believe any words of Mageau, then I have a bridge to sell you. IMO, they were not out there to make out as they didn’t have that kind of relationship.

I’m suggesting that perhaps they were out there to score a little weed (no big deal). I’m not judging Dee as she was very close to one of my family members whom thought the world of her and did not like how she was being portrayed. As for being involved in the "Occult," is ridiculous. First you must define Occult. What is "Occult?" Here’s what was said to me by a person who knew Dee "they think just because she lit a few candles and incense, that she was into the "Occult…..they obviously never been to Height Ashbury…during the 60’s and 70’s in SF and Berkeley it was common…it was the hippie era for crying out loud." My family that new Dee only arrived to Vallejo in 1966 as they were Native San Franciscans and were just adjusting to "small town mentality," Vallejo.

So the dealer never showed up? Where was the weed? I’m sure Law Enforcement would have noted it. How long did they sit there waiting?
Why was she with Mike late at night alone in a dark parking lot? Because they were just friends waiting on the weed at midnight? I guess it’s
possible, where was the money for the weed? Looks like they didn’t have that either. The dealer must have been surprised to see cops there…

It is what it is—just a theory. My theory. I don’t claim to be "onewhoknows."

Trying to understand. Are you saying that Dee invited the waitress (your relative?) to the painting party?

On July 4, 1969, Dee came to Terry’s Waffle shop and invited a waitress to a party that night and said that, "she would come back to Terry’s." (this is a fact!) I recall a more recent interview on you-tube were Mike Mageau stated something about –him and Dee were going to SF to watch a movie that evening on July 4th. How can Dee be in two places? If you believe any words of Mageau, then I have a bridge to sell you. IMO, they were not out there to make out as they didn’t have that kind of relationship.

Darlene and Mike had talked about going to SF earlier in the day, but Darlene changed her mind since she was to be with her sister for the Miss Firecracker party. Mike never claimed to have actually gone to SF with her. Mike also said they just went to BRS to talk. Whatever the case may be…

http://www.zodiackiller.com/DFR8.html

I just don’t understand why Dee would make conflicting plan with people.

I just don’t understand why Dee would make conflicting plan with people.

No offense, but the one saying she made conflicting plans is you. Again, is it the waitress that is your relative? Are you saying Darlene specifically asked her to go to a painting party? On July 4th?

The painting party and the 4th of July Party were two different parties. The person who knew Dee and is related to me was interviewed by Geraldo Rivera, Graysmith, and somebody who was trying to connect the Zodiac killings with Charles Manson. In fact, and investigator for KGO (O’connell or O’donnell) called looking for her last summer. The abovementioned person who was interviewed did not like the way Dee was being portrayed because she knew that some day her little girl will have to read about it. The abovementioned person tried to negate this when she was interviewed by Geraldo Rivera. They didn’t include her interview because her story was not outrages enough for the media. At that time, the media wanted satanic cults…to manipulate. My relative stopped talking to the media.