But Stitch I will be honest, I know next to nothing about L.L’s claims in any detail at all, but I don’t need to in order to see that I think there could be a case made for a deliberate and premeditated cover up attempt and I realize that saying that is going to be controversial in many people’s eyes, but this case I could point to so many outragous and redicilous situations/evidence that can no longer fly under the simple flag of ‘police incompitance’.

Napa Sheriff’s Dave Collins was asked why he hadn’t reported the fact that before Cecelia Shepard Passed away that she had told him she saw the attackers face before he had actually put the hood over it, and had given Collins a description? Collins replied (while laughing at the same time as if he himself was aware just how stupid and non believable this is going to be to the veiwers ‘You know, I didn’t think it was important at the time’. How can whatthe attacker looked like facially be of no importance when looking for him and attempting to apprehend him? That for me is just so not right that it just doesnt appeal to me as a bit of incompitance on the part of Collins, I mean incompitance is forgetting to read an arrested suspect his rights, or losing a piece of evidence, but he himself says it wasn’t incompitance in that he just forgot to report it, he states he hadn’t forgot her description, he just simply thought it wasn’t of importance! B.S that has always seemed like to me. Thats like saying a locksmith one day decided that Keys were not important to him and his trade. It simply doesn’t seem that you could do it!
Then we have Officer Fouke who spoke to a man, then didn’t speak to a man. Then it’s claimed someone somewhere in some capicity had decided that the suspect in Stine’s attack was A Black Male. And it’s never been discovered to this day who this mysterious dispatcher was and why she made this fatal errror is er description, nor has any official agency seemed even slightly interested in finding her and getting an answer. Thats awfully convenient isn’t it. I mean two officers have just failed to detain and arrest the most wanted man in California but….. Fear not, it was some dispatchers fault for giving the B.O.T.L for a BMA (Blk Mle Adt). And what ABout Fouke 1969 report stating "Suspect last seen heading North on Maple St." and his now change of story that, well actually, he was actually rushing off down someones driveway the last time we were able to see him. This was after this man had come stumbling and limping and shuffling down the sidewalk, spotted us, instantly put his head down, and turned and went off toward a house which would mean he’d avoid having us pull up close to him, but this isn’t suspicious behavior and anyway, this was A White male, so that doesn’t count!

Now I know a lot of people will take issue with that assessment but if the above did come about as a result of simple incompitance then I wouldn’t want to be murdered in S.F back then because you’d have police who don’t want a description of the suspect: Not important information or intelligence that will help catch the man. After they refuse to report the description of a murder suspect, they then move on to no caring or bothered about the suspects possible address or where he lives. If the see him put his head down, turn and make his way off the street side walk and basically do his best to make it obvious to any police that he is very nervous and is now stumbling and shuffling his way off down a driveway. I mean if this all is a case of simply error and bad police work then Zodiac’s claim of ‘Police shall never catch me as I have been too clever for them’ is over-ruled instantly lol. You don’t need to be clever when the people tasked with catching you don’t care what you look like or where you may live or currently be at one specific time on Oct 11, 69. If this is all one astronomical incompitant act after another after another, then I would think that Zodiac could have walked down Jackson St holding a sign aloft above his head "This is the Zodiac walking" and his home would need to have a 50 ft sign in the yard "The Zodiac serial Killer lives here" with arrow pointing at house. Even then, if we are to believe police really are unable to peform their basic and most crucial tasks, they would probably arrest the man for impersonating a wanted criminal and lock him up for wasting police time.

I know this type of suggestion is likely to cause many to leap to the defense of SFPD, Napa Sheriff’s etc and I respect that, but the fact remains, the are either the most incompatent bunch of officers & detectives ever serving the community, or they were complaciant in the deliberate witholding of the info they had been made aware of because it wasn’t something that would be be in their interest to disclose?

Welsh I’m thinking the kids was actually teenagers and in Graysmith YB he said that was a popular teenage hang out. I think Lunblad just referred to them as kids since he was older.

But Stitch I will be honest, I know next to nothing about L.L’s claims in any detail at all, but I don’t need to in order to see that I think there could be a case made for a deliberate and premeditated cover up attempt and I realize that saying that is going to be controversial in many people’s eyes, but this case I could point to so many outragous and redicilous situations/evidence that can no longer fly under the simple flag of ‘police incompitance’.

Napa Sheriff’s Dave Collins was asked why he hadn’t reported the fact that before Cecelia Shepard Passed away that she had told him she saw the attackers face before he had actually put the hood over it, and had given Collins a description? Collins replied (while laughing at the same time as if he himself was aware just how stupid and non believable this is going to be to the veiwers ‘You know, I didn’t think it was important at the time’. How can whatthe attacker looked like facially be of no importance when looking for him and attempting to apprehend him? That for me is just so not right that it just doesnt appeal to me as a bit of incompitance on the part of Collins, I mean incompitance is forgetting to read an arrested suspect his rights, or losing a piece of evidence, but he himself says it wasn’t incompitance in that he just forgot to report it, he states he hadn’t forgot her description, he just simply thought it wasn’t of importance! B.S that has always seemed like to me. Thats like saying a locksmith one day decided that Keys were not important to him and his trade. It simply doesn’t seem that you could do it!
Then we have Officer Fouke who spoke to a man, then didn’t speak to a man. Then it’s claimed someone somewhere in some capicity had decided that the suspect in Stine’s attack was A Black Male. And it’s never been discovered to this day who this mysterious dispatcher was and why she made this fatal errror is er description, nor has any official agency seemed even slightly interested in finding her and getting an answer. Thats awfully convenient isn’t it. I mean two officers have just failed to detain and arrest the most wanted man in California but….. Fear not, it was some dispatchers fault for giving the B.O.T.L for a BMA (Blk Mle Adt). And what ABout Fouke 1969 report stating "Suspect last seen heading North on Maple St." and his now change of story that, well actually, he was actually rushing off down someones driveway the last time we were able to see him. This was after this man had come stumbling and limping and shuffling down the sidewalk, spotted us, instantly put his head down, and turned and went off toward a house which would mean he’d avoid having us pull up close to him, but this isn’t suspicious behavior and anyway, this was A White male, so that doesn’t count!

Now I know a lot of people will take issue with that assessment but if the above did come about as a result of simple incompitance then I wouldn’t want to be murdered in S.F back then because you’d have police who don’t want a description of the suspect: Not important information or intelligence that will help catch the man. After they refuse to report the description of a murder suspect, they then move on to no caring or bothered about the suspects possible address or where he lives. If the see him put his head down, turn and make his way off the street side walk and basically do his best to make it obvious to any police that he is very nervous and is now stumbling and shuffling his way off down a driveway. I mean if this all is a case of simply error and bad police work then Zodiac’s claim of ‘Police shall never catch me as I have been too clever for them’ is over-ruled instantly lol. You don’t need to be clever when the people tasked with catching you don’t care what you look like or where you may live or currently be at one specific time on Oct 11, 69. If this is all one astronomical incompitant act after another after another, then I would think that Zodiac could have walked down Jackson St holding a sign aloft above his head "This is the Zodiac walking" and his home would need to have a 50 ft sign in the yard "The Zodiac serial Killer lives here" with arrow pointing at house. Even then, if we are to believe police really are unable to peform their basic and most crucial tasks, they would probably arrest the man for impersonating a wanted criminal and lock him up for wasting police time.

I know this type of suggestion is likely to cause many to leap to the defense of SFPD, Napa Sheriff’s etc and I respect that, but the fact remains, the are either the most incompatent bunch of officers & detectives ever serving the community, or they were complaciant in the deliberate witholding of the info they had been made aware of because it wasn’t something that would be be in their interest to disclose?

I agree with a lot of that!

Stitch Mallone wrote:
"Been reading Lafferty’s book today and no didn’t pay the $50 bucks and got it at the local library today. Anyhow he states that the LHR murder was actually Benicia Jurisdiction and not Solano County."

Who is the "he?" Lafferty?

That part of LHR was not incorporated into Benicia at the time, if it is today. It was part of the SCSD jurisdiction, which would make it Solano County’s case.