10/5/12
The month before the Pines card was given to the Chronicle, this article about Donna was in the newspaper.
Is the what inspired the Pines card?
Sorry–don’t know the paper.
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
Well if it did, then it doesn’t make sense really. If someone saw this article and decided to write the pines card to take credit for it, then why would they be so vague and non specific? Surely if someone was inspired enough by the Article to hoax the Pines postcard and mail it, surely they’d be a bit more obvious about the cards message?
I mean why write to take credit for a crime, and not name the crime you are confessing too? That seems counter-intuitive and pointless lol.
"I’d like to make a full confession in regards to the disappearence of No Comment." 
"So it’s sorta social. Demented and sad, but social, right?" Judd Nelson.
Well if it did, then it doesn’t make sense really. If someone saw this article and decided to write the pines card to take credit for it, then why would they be so vague and non specific? Surely if someone was inspired enough by the Article to hoax the Pines postcard and mail it, surely they’d be a bit more obvious about the cards message?
I mean why write to take credit for a crime, and not name the crime you are confessing too? That seems counter-intuitive and pointless lol."I’d like to make a full confession in regards to the disappearence of No Comment."
Ah…but I wrote "inspired" the Pines card.
I think that is why it was so vague. The sender had nothing to do with anything other than faking a Zodiac communique.
And, if they actually claimed Donna (or whoever) and the person was who abducted her was caught or maybe Donna was alive…it would be no good.
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
Being vague and non-specific would be beneficial in the event that Donna was found and the incident was determined not to have involved Zodiac. Zodiac at that point could have relayed that the Lass disappearance was not the crime he was referring to in his card.
Being vague and non-specific would be beneficial in the event that Donna was found and the incident was determined not to have involved Zodiac. Zodiac at that point could have relayed that the Lass disappearance was not the crime he was referring to in his card.
Which was unlike Zodiac. He very much liked offering his proof of who it was he killed..in his written hand.
The FK-Crackproof card, the HC card and this Pines card are all the same way. Vague and no handwriting. Gives them all some leeway. Yet, he jumped all over the Kathleen Johns story while being quite descriptive. 
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
Presumably the Donna lass Reward Cipher poster/flyer was then produced after the pines card was received prompting the possible Zodiac connection to her disappearance. Would that be correct?
I know that would make sense but does anyone know the date the poster was produced? It’s nice to be sure of the chronology.
“I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.“
Being vague and non-specific would be beneficial in the event that Donna was found and the incident was determined not to have involved Zodiac. Zodiac at that point could have relayed that the Lass disappearance was not the crime he was referring to in his card.
Which was unlike Zodiac. He very much liked offering his proof of who it was he killed..in his written hand.
The FK-Crackproof card, the HC card and this Pines card are all the same way. Vague and no handwriting. Gives them all some leeway. Yet, he jumped all over the Kathleen Johns story while being quite descriptive.
But the Halloween card sent to Paul Avery did have printing on it. ‘By Gun By Fire’ etc. The address was also written in pen on the envelope to ‘Paul Averly, S.F Chronicle, 5th – Mission, S.F’.
"So it’s sorta social. Demented and sad, but social, right?" Judd Nelson.
Being vague and non-specific would be beneficial in the event that Donna was found and the incident was determined not to have involved Zodiac. Zodiac at that point could have relayed that the Lass disappearance was not the crime he was referring to in his card.
Which was unlike Zodiac. He very much liked offering his proof of who it was he killed..in his written hand.
The FK-Crackproof card, the HC card and this Pines card are all the same way. Vague and no handwriting. Gives them all some leeway. Yet, he jumped all over the Kathleen Johns story while being quite descriptive.
But the Halloween card sent to Paul Avery did have printing on it. ‘By Gun By Fire’ etc. The address was also written in pen on the envelope to ‘Paul Averly, S.F Chronicle, 5th – Mission, S.F’.
Yes…the HC card did, but was it in BLUE ink? lol
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
Yes…the HC card did, but was it in BLUE ink? lol
Don’t be silly. Blue wouldn’t have been fitting for the Halloween theme. Lol. 
“I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.“
So the handwriting matching that of Zodiac’s is irrelevant, the ink wasn’t the correct colour? Lol
"So it’s sorta social. Demented and sad, but social, right?" Judd Nelson.
So the handwriting matching that of Zodiac’s is irrelevant, the ink wasn’t the correct colour? Lol
I don’t think it matched at all, but to each his own.
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
So the handwriting matching that of Zodiac’s is irrelevant, the ink wasn’t the correct colour? Lol
I don’t think it matched at all, but to each his own.
Quote: "State handwriting expert, Sherwood Morrill, confirmed the death threat was indeed the work of Zodiac."
Also, ‘Paradice’ appears in this letter, spelled the same way as it was in Z’s cracked Cipher. " THE BEST PART OF IT IS THAE WHEN I DIE I WILL BE REBORN IN PARADICE AND ALL THEI HAVE KILLED WILL BECOME MY SLAVES"
"So it’s sorta social. Demented and sad, but social, right?" Judd Nelson.
The August 19, 1969 SF Chronicle article at this link-
http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtop … f=50&t=442
gives the misspelling of "paradice" that was in the cipher. Anyone who wanted to copycat the Zodiac letters could have known the misspelling if they read the newspapers so I do not think the spelling is a good argument in favor of the HC being sent by the true Zodiac.
Quote: "State handwriting expert, Sherwood Morrill, confirmed the death threat was indeed the work of Zodiac."
While handwriting analysis is an interesting tool, I don’t think it can be used to confirm anything. Blood, DNA, fingerprints, fibers, etc…yes. Handwriting alone? Nah…
IMO, a copycat is doing just that. Copying. They wouldnt be very good copy-cats, if they weren’t doing that! Seagull’s statement is spot-on.
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
And we’ve seen before where people will discount an entire communication from Z, based on the way he did one letter, one time, in that letter. When if it’s a copy cat he’s going to make sure he does every letter to the best of his ability just as Z would do it. Otherwise it defeats the copycats purpose. I like the info Morf has found regarding a Dr. Adams…..Whether it proves to be actually Z related, or not, I guess time will tell, but it’s a great find none the less.
