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Tahoe27
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I think she was left somewhere off of Donner Pass or 80. The Sierra Club lodge is there. He had left a Lincoln stamp with the postcard and Donner Pass/Sierra Club Lodge are off Lincoln Highway which is the 80. Additionally Donner Pass rhymes with Donna Lass which is strange. (If taking Pat Tan into account at Mt. Tam as being a Z victim maybe Donna’s murder followed the same methodology?)

Lincoln Highway is via South Shore…not Donner Pass. No stamp on the Pines card, it was pre-printed, but was Lincoln. Lass’ name was actually pronounces "Loss"…so her sister says, and it seems someone would have to know her to try and associate that. I think it is a coincidence, but to each his own. :)

Edit: Looks like prior to 1960 the old Lincoln Hwy passed through the Donner Pass area. In 1970, as well as today, it is via Highway 50. Funny thing, I live here and didn’t know that for years, and most people who live here don’t know it either.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : June 16, 2015 8:21 pm
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I have no opinion as to where Donna Lass may be.

But I doubt she was a Zodiac victim. If she is, she does not fit the pattern at all.

All confirmed Z victims were left in the open. He never made any attempt to hide a victim’s body. In fact, the most basic aspect of his "campaign" as a killer slash letter writer is this: He kills someone in a location where they are bound to be discovered soon. At BRS and LB he also makes sure by phoning in it. In my opinion he may have done this for LHR and PH too, but it wasn’t necessary – because he knew the cops were on to it.

He wants the victims found and he claims the kills in no uncertain terms. That’s the pattern for the canonical Zodiac murders.

 
Posted : June 18, 2015 7:45 pm
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True Norse although we know that Z eventually said in a letter that he was going to stop announcing his crimes. He also began to send letters leading authorities out on witch hunts to find things (sniper around buses and bomb at Mt. Diablo). Perhaps he wanted them to go in a similar search, but to find Lass’s remains. Can’t ignore that he said he would kill people and make it look like accidents, suicides, etc. sure maybe he was just BSing about killing more people and not announcing it, but I personally think he was being honest about killing and no longer taking credit (at least as often). Maybe he would send a clue at most.

Thanks Tahoe for the clear up, though it is interesting that Lincoln once ran through Donner Pass. Didn’t know that it no longer did. I’m looking at the wiki page and it talks about Lincoln going through Donner Pass. Didn’t realize it stretched all the way to NY! Doubt it’s related to Donna Lass, but its a silly theory of mine. Haven’t really thought deeper into it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Route_o … ln_Highway

 
Posted : June 18, 2015 8:52 pm
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I’m looking at the card between pages 206 and 207 of the yellow book.
Sierra Club, around in the snow,victim 12. Donna Lass. I believe her
Remains could still be there. In plain sight but well hidden. I do not
Believe that her remains were put in to a tree. All tho, not a bad place
To Hind a body. I believe her remains,Are at the water line. I have posted
this before. where she’s in plain sight but will hidden. It is a riddle.

 
Posted : October 2, 2015 6:34 pm
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Donner Pass/Donna Lass
But there’s another mountain related play on words……
Peek/Peak
Maybe she’s not located at the actual pass itself but on the peak sighted through the pass, like gun sights.
There is a promising peek in the vicinity of Donner Pass, Mount Lincoln.

"The truth is stranger than fiction" – Aristotle 336BC

 
Posted : October 9, 2018 4:02 am
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I once read that Donna lass wore contact lenses? And was a little over 5ft tall? in July 02 1979 the skeletal remains of a female were found just off Calistoga road north east of rincon valley ( not sure how far away from where Donna was abducted), it was determined that the victim had been hogtied and had her arm broken at the time of her murder, the victim had also broken her rib at sometime during her life but had fully healed before her death. The victim also wore contact lenses! I wonder if Donna had ever broken a rib? I have often wondered if this un identified young lady was Donna lass? This discovery still to this day is a mystery and the identity of the girl unknown.

 
Posted : January 19, 2019 11:58 pm
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That body was found only about 100 yards away from where Lori Lee Korsa had been found. Typical Santa Rosa Hitchhiker Murder dumping area. Victim had red or auburn or brown hair (guess that one is from DNA testing). Body was there probably for approximately 7 years.

Far away from Lake Tahoe, also not the same pattern (‘hitchhiking’ vs. man being seen together with Donna few days previous to her death).

Also, Donna Lass was 5’4”, the body found approximately 5’0”.

Just an idea:

Kathleen Edna Rogers?
Eileen Francis Hynson?

QT

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Posted : January 20, 2019 12:22 pm
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Cheers quicktrader, chances are then the remains what were found are probably not donna lass’s

 
Posted : January 20, 2019 2:21 pm
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Eggs n bacon, you brought up an interesting issue.

I looked a bit closer into this unidentified body case:

"On July 2, 1979, skeletal remains were found in a ravine off Calistoga Road approximately one hundred yards from where the body of Lori Lee Kursa had been recovered seven years earlier. Due to the age of the remains, authorities initially believed them to be those of Jeannette Kamahele until a comparison of dental records later proved negative. The victim had been hogtied and her arm fractured around the time of her murder but there was no other evidence to establish a cause of death. It was determined that the unidentified victim was approximately 16 to 21 years old, wore contact lenses, had red or auburn or brown hair, was about 5 feet tall and at one time had broken a rib which was healed by the time of the murder."

IMO the case is clearly a ‘typical’ SRHM case. This due to the fact the body was found only a hundred yards away from Lori Lee Kursa. One may assume that not every 100 yards a dead body can be found. The area of Franz Valley Road was the dumping sites of the SRHM serial killer. Some bodies were found in that area.

Besides that, we know the following about the victim, whose remains were found next to Lori Lee Kursa:

– age 16-21 years
– female (thought to be Jeannette Kamahele)
– contact lenses
– red/auburn/brown hair
– 5 ft. tall
– broken rib (healed)

Plenty of young girls went missing from the Santa Rosa area, later showed up dead. Not too many missing girls, however, from that area who were not found dead later-on. Thus, we are looking for a female, 16-21 years old, red/auburn/brown hair, contact lenses, healed broken rib and 5 ft. tall.

As far as I know, there is only one person missing from the Santa Rosa area matching at least some of the criteria above. Lisa Smith.

Lisa Smith was 5’0” ft. tall.
She went missing in the Santa Rosa area.
She was 17 years old.
She went missing only three days after Eva Lucienne Blau, less than one year before Maureen Louise Sterling (who also was found at Franz Valley Road).
She had dark hair.

Marie Antoinette ‘Toni’ Romo Anstey‘s case, her found dead on March 21, 1970, was described as related to Eva Lucienne Blau (additional information?)
Eva Lucienne Blau, found near ROHNERT PARK (South of Santa Rosa) on March 13, 1970 (rope was ‘used’)
Lisa Smith, went missing from Hearn Avenue in Santa Rosa, California on March 16, 1971 – was last seen HITCHHIKING
Maureen Louise ‘Lee’ Sterling, found at FRANZ VALLEY Road on February 4, 1972
Yvonne Lisa Weber, found at FRANZ VALLEY Road on February 4, 1972
Kimball ‘Kim’ Wendy Allen, found at Enterprise Road near PETALUMA HILL ROAD on March 5, 1972
Jeannette Kamahele, missing from COTATI (South of Santa Rosa) since April 25, 1972
James T. Willett, found at GUERNEVILLE, West of Santa Rosa (close to FORESTVILLE) on November 8, 1972
Lauren Olmstead Willett related or married to James T. Willett, was found burried in a crawl space / basement of a house in Stockton at 720 West Flora Street.
Lori Lee Kursa, missing November 21, 1972, later found in FRANZ VALLEY ROAD, near Calistoga Road
Therese Dian Walsh, missing December 22, 1972, found at MARK WEST CREEK – you may guess – near FORESTVILLE
Greta Nansen Modecke, missing from June 7, 1973, found in GUERNEVILLE
Lawrence LeGrand, found in Jenner near GUERNEVILLE on June 7, 1973
Carolyn Nadine Davis, was found at FRANZ VALLEY ROAD, missing July 15, 1973
Kerry Ann Graham disappeared together with Francine from their homes in FORESTVILLE on December 16, 1978, was found later miles away in the area of Willits
Francine Marie Trimble disappeared together with Kerry from their homes in FORESTVILLE on December 16, 1978, was found later miles away in the area of Willits
Susan Lori Dye, missing from Cloverdale (North of Santa Rosa), found on October 16, 1975
Cheryl Schille Wyant, missing since May 1, 1978 from Rohnert Park, COTATI (South of Santa Rosa)

Then there was the ‘three seperate women’ incident:

"In Santa Rosa, a man frightened three separate women motorist in an identical manner, time was between 3-4 am. At 5.10 am the police stopped a man whose auto and license number matched their descriptions. He was identified as a Vallejo resident in a ‘1962-1964 white Chevrolet’. The man, about 23, was stopped after he had followed a woman right into the post office parking lot. He claimed that he was lost and looking for a way out of town. The police let the man go and escorted him out of town.
(unsure if source is reliable)

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/usedtob … 31642.html

UPDATE:

https://questersite.wordpress.com/2016/ … -addendum/

Seems as if Lisa Smith had survived the attack. She would be an interesting witness.

QT

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Posted : January 20, 2019 8:45 pm
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This is a picture of Lisa Smith:

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threa … 72.411296/

For whatever reasons, she is not listed anymore.

QT

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Posted : January 20, 2019 9:51 pm
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Cheers for all that info Quicktrader, I know the MO’s don’t all match in the SRHM cases but I recon that was beacuse they were committed by a few different individuals (but mostly done by the same gang, including manalli) especially where the bound/hogtied remains were found. I was reading a bit more about Nordic sacrifices and poisonings were another way of the taking of the slaves for the afterlife! Lisa smith is that the girl that after leaving the hospital completely vanished again? I know seagull is pretty hot on the SRhM perhaps she can shed a bit of light on Lisa smith?

 
Posted : January 21, 2019 12:33 am
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Just to add some of the bodies/remains were thrown with quite a bit of force off the roads and down the ravines, I can picture 2 people throwing the bodies 1 grabbing the arms the other grabbing the legs and swinging their victims over and down the steep drops

 
Posted : January 21, 2019 1:06 am
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What is interesting to me is that so many are so sure of where she is buried yet there isn’t even the slightest HINT at Donna written on the Pines card yet she gets written in as a Zodiac victim…almost like it’s a fact of this case.

Heya Tahoe… I’ll preface by saying IMO… The Pines card is a fake card created by an investigator… from all information I can gather. So we are left with the Halloween card, and the birthday card. The Halloween card specifically states what he (the zodiac killer) did with Donna, and where her remains are. He stated it was not a cipher on the envelope. That’s because it was a puzzle. The Christmas card confirms that. I just need to travel to the location to verify. So many identifiers were pointed out, yet no one looked harder at them, and to be honest… I don’t know why. It was the logistical route to continue. Yet they all stopped. They chose not to look more in depth.

Also as a side note to what you said… I’ve not heard of any investigators claiming she is a zodiac victim. IMO… it’s easy to see if you look hard enough at the evidence.

 
Posted : February 16, 2019 6:36 am
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Cheers quicktrader, chances are then the remains what were found are probably not donna lass’s

Not necessarily. Its my understanding coroner’s have been wrong before.

Soze

 
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