As we know, Zodiac sent a letter to Mel Belli on Dec 20, 1969 which was the one year anniversary of the LHR murders of David and Betty. So Zodiac is, without question, known to do this on at least one occasion. It may be noteworthy therefor to draw attention to the Date of the disputed 1978 letter that stated ‘I am back with you…’ Why? Well, Dana Lull was abducted at gunpoint from her vehicle in Red Rock Canyon, Las Vegas. Lull’s body was discovered in a mine shaft on Mountain Springs Road in San Bernardino County, CA while Lawrence Kane lived, rather coincidentally, on Spring Mountain Road in Las Vegas. Roy Tophigh described the abductors car as:
A White Sports Car. Convertible. Black cloth top. Wire Spoke Wheels. Chrome luggage rack on trunk. Missing grill and Old California Licence Plate.
Kane’s vehicle at that time was: White 1966 MG Sport Car. Convertible. Black Cloth Top. Wire Spoked Wheels. Chrome Luggage rack on the trunk. Missing Grill. Old California Plates (TDY274).
Dana was abducted at gunpoint on April 24th, 1974. The ‘I am back with you’ communication was sent on April 24, 1978.
I am very much aware this 1978 letter is in dispute as to it being genuine or a hoax. I am posting here just to point out the date’s relevance and not am not claiming by doing so that I accept this 78 letter as authentic. I know that would just appear as if I accept it because it suits my agenda to do so. I post this here simply as a point of interest.
"So it’s sorta social. Demented and sad, but social, right?" Judd Nelson.
Always been my favorite suspect….Let’s see Kane was in SF Bay Area; 68-69 Z crimes happen, Z moves to Lake Tahoe in June of 1970 (same month as Donna Lass), she goes missing 3 months later. Kane moves to Las Vegas and Ms. Lull is abducted and murdered. If nothing else he stacks up geographically to where murders happen. He works for Dorfman (a mob hitman), Dorfman sets up RE business in Sahara Tahoe, and Kane works for him. Well you know these things already. I wish I knew why Kane became a suspect to begin with. We know SFPD took his handwriting samples, so I would think that would suggest in ’69- Early 1970. But they must have been interested enough in him to get his handwriting, but I wonder what tipped them off to Kane?
Do we know if Kane’s finger prints matched or didn’t match or never tested?
Do we know if Kane’s finger prints matched or didn’t match or never tested?
I was told by someone who personally dealt with the VPD, that LK’s prints were inconclusive so they could not confirm it was LK, but he was not excluded. Whether another agency had a different conclusion, I don’t know, but I do know Larry’s prints were obtained.
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
When were you told that T? And when did the person you spoke with tell you Kane’s prints were looked at and the result was inconclusive? Vallejo PD re-opened its investigation in 91 because a new suspect (Kane) had came to light and documents in the FBI vaults regarding Zodiac show that VPD petitioned the FBI for Kane’s prints for comparison and the document states that VPD had asked surrounding LE Agencies for a copy of Kane’s prints if they have them and were still awaiting a positive response from the LE agencies it had sent the requests to. There is almost identical documents for ALA showing that requests were made to have his prints compared to the suspect prints and it has a follow up document showing this was completed and the result was negative. Kane’s only shows the request to the FBI as far as I have ever been able to determine, but no document showing the results of the comparison being inconclusive or any other result. I don’t doubt what you say T, on the contrary actually and that’s why I am interested to know when you were told this, and when the person who told you said the comparison was carried out and the result was inconclusive?
"So it’s sorta social. Demented and sad, but social, right?" Judd Nelson.
WC–I was told a couple of months ago. I’d rather not name names as this person told me this in confidence and is not a part of message boards. People can choose to believe me or not (not saying YOU).
They did not tell me the date of when this occurred with the VPD, but the prints were from a time when he was "booked" for something else – around the time all this was going on with Zodiac (not when he was a suspect). I have seen these prints, but again, I have to take this person at their word the prints are Kane’s. They also shared other prints in regards to the Zodiac case which I had never seen, that I know are a part of this case. So, considering the source, I do believe the prints are Kane’s.
I think most information now-a-days is taken with a grain of salt, so-to-speak. Unless one hears it straight from the horses mouth…so much seems to be hearsay.
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
WC–I was told a couple of months ago. I’d rather not name names as this person told me this in confidence and is not a part of message boards. People can choose to believe me or not (not saying YOU).
They did not tell me the date of when this occurred with the VPD, but the prints were from a time when he was "booked" for something else – around the time all this was going on with Zodiac (not when he was a suspect). I have seen these prints, but again, I have to take this person at their word the prints are Kane’s. They also shared other prints in regards to the Zodiac case which I had never seen, that I know are a part of this case. So, considering the source, I do believe the prints are Kane’s.
I think most information now-a-days is taken with a grain of salt, so-to-speak. Unless one hears it straight from the horses mouth…so much seems to be hearsay.
I respect your wish to keep the sources name private, I didn’t & wouldn’t ask you to supply the name. All I wanted to know was if this person said the comparison was done before 91 then it would not seem accurate info because of the reasons I give in the previous post.
I myself know one source who has a copy of Kane’s prints but again it’s as you say, I have no proof that they are his prints and the only thing I myself can point to in support of this is the source being one that I have always found to be very credible.
The only other arrest Kane has just prior to the appearance of Zodiac is an arrest in Redwood City, San Mateo. That arrest supplied the mug shot that most recognise today….
"So it’s sorta social. Demented and sad, but social, right?" Judd Nelson.
I know you didn’t ask a name WC, but it is inevitable that someone will. 
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
Do you think Kane matches who Officer Fouke saw on the evening of the stine murder?
Do you think Kane matches who Officer Fouke saw on the evening of the stine murder?
Fouke has seen Kane’s photo. He looked it and said:
"Of all the photo’s I’ve been shown (of suspects), this one is the best likeness. (To the Zodiac)."
He said he can’t say for sure ‘yes it is him’ because at the time he looked at Kane’s photo 20 years had passed from the night he saw ‘Zodiac’ on Jackson Street.
"So it’s sorta social. Demented and sad, but social, right?" Judd Nelson.
That’s right I remember reading that. Thank you for the reminder.
