The one thing I wish I could find out is where he worked as a auto-salesman. I’ve only ever seen one reference to this online somewhere that simply says "Lawrence Kane – A former car dealer from San Francisco.’

I really would like to know if he worked for or at one of Kjell Qvale’s showrooms, it is entirely possible considering Kjell owned and operated more than 100 dealerships Nationwide by 1970.

But trying to find any information when it comes to Citizen Kane is frustrating beyond comprehension. He’s the only man I know that appears on several sites such as Ancestry.com etc and do so on every site with absolutely no listed relatives at all.

I mean he’s buried as Cane, who was born on April 26, 1924 according to The Nevada State Memorial Vet cemetery. Click ‘Obituary link on that very page and you’ll now be told he was born Apr 29, 1922.

I’ve been thinking about the limp/ shuffling gate that both Hartnell and the Stine witnesses mentioned. Anyone know if Kane had a limp?

Hartnell never mentioned a limp/shuffling gait. The "shuffling gait" term was used about a thousand times by Graysmith in ZU, but never by Hartnell. Hartnell never saw the man walk up or away.

The Vallejo PD, back in 1991, re-opened the Zodiac case because of Kane and asked the FBI for his prints. They seemed to have ignored this request. Vallejo PD also stated in their Document they submitted to the FBI that ‘Kane was found in possession of a forged drivers licence, a federal offence, Vallejo PD plan to arrest Kane in order to obtain his prints if the FBI doesn’t have them on file.

And then Kane dropped off the face of the Earth again, and no arrest was made, nor prints obtained.

The Vallejo police did obtain prints. I have seen them. Those same prints were also compared to prints on the glass of Byran’s car windows.

While I can’t speak for Larry’s comings and goings before he moved to Lake Tahoe…he stayed put in Tahoe for over 35 years.

See I have to refrain from attending his graveside because I would end up being arrested for criminal damage…..

The Vallejo PD, back in 1991, re-opened the Zodiac case because of Kane and asked the FBI for his prints. They seemed to have ignored this request. Vallejo PD also stated in their Document they submitted to the FBI that ‘Kane was found in possession of a forged drivers licence, a federal offence, Vallejo PD plan to arrest Kane in order to obtain his prints if the FBI doesn’t have them on file.

And then Kane dropped off the face of the Earth again, and no arrest was made, nor prints obtained.

The Vallejo police did obtain prints. I have seen them. Those same prints were also compared to prints on the glass of Byran’s car windows.

While I can’t speak for Larry’s comings and goings before he moved to Lake Tahoe…he stayed put in Tahoe for over 35 years.

Hold on, back up a sec T.

Print, Bryan’s window? Is it just me that never heard of any print being lifted from the window of Bryans car?

Well if they compared the prints then T, maybe you can tell me why there is no FBI document showing the results of his comparison? Vallejo PD asked the FBI to carry out the comparison of the his prints if they had them and said in the same document that if the FBI did not have them then they planned to arrest him on the forged licence charge to obtain his prints that way.

He had 3 drivers licences, all in different names with his photo. DMV wouldn’t issue him one and banned him from driving because of his Brain Injury so he decided to go and get 3 from elsewhere.

Yes. Prints were taken from the vehicle: http://www.zodiackiller.com/LBReport16.html

Some of those were on the glass.

Of course I cannot speak as to why the F.B.I. does not mention fingerprints.

The FBI is asked to do the exact same thing for suspect Arthur Allen and we see his document they supplied to request a comparison, followed by another showing the ‘Negative’ results. Kane has one submitted requesting the same, but I have yet to see a doc that responds that shows a comparison was even carried out.

I really aint being Biased here T, just I really have never seen it. You may well be correct and if you can show me where the results can be seen from an official source (such as FBI WEBSITE) then i’ll be more than happy to conceded your correct.

I mean this is, after all, ‘Lawrence Kane’ that was officially arrested, booked and charged with prowling and peeping tom like behaviour in San Mateo and then a decade later the same man, now being filed suit against as ‘Cane’ is now the defendant where he’s accused of owing someone 5 grand on behalf of Tahoe Marketing.

He’s like a contestant on ‘Stars in their eyes’

"Tonight Matthew, I’m going to be…… ZODIAC"

(Not sure if you Americans will get that, it’s a British show lol)

The FBI is asked to do the exact same thing for suspect Arthur Allen and we see his document they supplied to request a comparison, followed by another showing the ‘Negative’ results. Kane has one submitted requesting the same, but I have yet to see a doc that responds that shows a comparison was even carried out.

I really aint being Biased here T, just I really have never seen it. You may well be correct and if you can show me where the results can be seen from an official source (such as FBI WEBSITE) then i’ll be more than happy to conceded your correct.

Maybe the VPD felt they ruled him out prior to needing the F.B.I’s involvement? I truly don’t know. I do understand people wanting to see "it" with their own eyes though.

I could swear there was something about his walk in the LB report. Maybe Shepherd said something? Hartnell see him walk away? I have to read it again I guess.

Thanks, Tahoe, btw. You must get tired of explaing the same old info to newbies. I’ve read the reports a while back, but there’s so much , I find it hard to keep it all straight in my head.

Why would Z’s print be on Hartnells car? If a print were lifted from the car window it could anybody’s. Zodiac writes on his door yes but I really can’t see him bare handed steadying himself by placing his hand on the window leaving prints everywhere.

Didn’t they compare the print found on Bryans window to the print they claim was discovered at the cab and/or on one of his letters? (That’s if any prints were lifted, a lot of people claim there is no prints available today because they never lifted any to begin with)

Why would Z’s print be on Hartnells car? If a print were lifted from the car window it could anybody’s. Zodiac writes on his door yes but I really can’t see him bare handed steadying himself by placing his hand on the window leaving prints everywhere.

Didn’t they compare the print found on Bryans window to the print they claim was discovered at the cab and/or on one of his letters? (That’s if any prints were lifted, a lot of people claim there is no prints available today because they never lifted any to begin with)

I think taking prints off the car would be standard procedure. If by some chance they found a match at another scene, chances would be pretty good they found their man.

For the record, I was told the prints came back as "inconclusive" as far as a match. I was provided both, but could not tell with my untrained eye. I would imagine Napa shared prints with SF and even Riverside.

–joedetective….after a while this stuff just burns into your brain. It’s been discussed SO much over the years.

Inconclusive? How does that work then? You have two sets of prints, they either match, or they don’t. If the results were inconclusive then I think it’s safe to assume that they did not have enough detail to work with to compare one to the other, and if they didn’t have that, they in a nutshell, they don’t have his prints.

I mean there are official claims that the evidence technician was able to lift a finger print off the handset of the payphone Zodiac had used to call police. Other official sources say that this is not true and that the evidence tech, in his eagerness to get the print lifted, tried to lift it off the phone while it was still moist and damp and in doing so, smudged it all over the place rendering the evidence now completely useless.

They have Larry’s prints Chappie.

The prints on the window were apparently too messed up to say they matched. The prints on the window were not a perfect set like arrest record prints would be.