Hi,

Yes. 1947 was not only a significant year, the term "flying saucer" had been coined on about June 24th of that year, about two weeks before KQ’s alleged sighting, so he was in on the "ground floor" of sightings and got himself on the front pages of two of the local SF Bay Area newspapers just as Z would do some 22 years later.

The Roswell incident occurred on the same weekend as KQ’s sighting. In fact, when I wrote to him in July 1999 I made that point and asked him if he thought the crafts he saw may have beenthe same ones that flew on to Roswell, lol.

And the link shows once again that I make NOTHING up. When you check my sources, they all check out, unlike people like Gary Stewart. It is just as I say–KQ was one of only two people in 1947 to say that flying saucers were from outer space. Ironically, the other was someone who was out of Morristown, NJ airport about a mile and a half from where I was working for Lucent Technologies in Florham Park, NJ in 1999. (Now that is the site of the NY Jets training camp.) The guy’s story was that his small plane had been stopped in midair by some flying saucers and subjected to some maneuvers, or something. He was QUICKLY discredited in the minds of most people at the time, thus leaving KQ as the ONLY CREDIBLE PERSON of the 825 or so cases summarized in that book who stated that flying saucers were alien crafts. In the article in the Alameda Times-Star from July 7th, he goes on to say that he wished they would land and tell us where they were from. He does not, however, say "little green men," lol.

In other words, you can choose to either believe or not believe that KQ was Z but, you will NEVER discredit me or my evidence like they did to Stewart.
Just won’t happen.

Mike, I’m not sure if that was directed at me or not, but I was not trying to discredit you. Quite the opposite, in fact. I like the work and information you have come up with on Qvale and I do think it is very possible that he was Z, or had something to do with the Stine murder.

I hadn’t realized that the KQ UFO sighting was the same week as the Roswell crash until last night. I find that very interesting.

Hi,

No. My comment was directed at all comers who will try to discredit my research a la the Gary Stewart documentary. I was just politely throwing down the gauntlet. My facts are unassailable, as evidenced by the "little green men" episode that checks out from one end to the other. You are free to say it is not relevant to the Z case and that KQ is not Z, etc. You are entitled to an opinion. But the facts remain facts and will never change.

Hi,

In the book, Report on the UFO Wave of 1947 from 1967, KQ is the ONLY credible person out of over 800 reported cases from around the country to have said that flying saucers were from outer space. THAT is the significance. Nobody else was saying that at the time EXCEPT him–and a lot of people were reporting them. Such singularity lands you on the front pages. I submit it was attention seeking and even a bit of terrorism, given the proximity of the events to WW II, the latent fear that existed of both the Russians and the Japanese, to whom many attributed these strange alleged crafts and the possibility of little green men. KQ in essence said that it was even worse than the Russians or possibly the Japanese–we were under invasion from space.

Read some of the newspaper reports from this time, as I have, before adding your grain of salt.

Do you have a source for that assertion? Because I recall reading many WWII pilots discussing flying saucers in the 40s and stating that they believed that the discs were not of this earth or at least did not behave like any known terrestrial aircraft.

Hi,

When you have some proper perspective, things look a whole lot damning, not less so. The flying saucer incident shows KQ commandeering front page coverage for his story about "little green men" some twenty years before there was a Zodiac killer.

Mike

So, between 1947 and 1969, what else did he do to seek attention? If this is part and parcel to his character, why do we not find more such instances of him making wild claims?

All I know is that in 1947 people were not cavalier about voicing the opinion that flying saucers had little green men in them, and I will not be lured into a discussion as to whether or not flying saucers are an alien phenomenon or not because nobody can win that one lol. The fact remains that in an era where people were very circumspect about voicing such opinions even if that is what they feared, KQ’s pronouncement, whether factually accurate or not, would have tended to terrify people who read his assessment because it would have confirmed their worst fears. And it sure did get him front page coverage.

BTW, at our 2006 meting, KQ did not defiantly tell me that what he saw he truly believed were alien spacecraft. Rather he tried to downplay and minimize what he had said in 1947 by implying that the timing of his contacting the newspaper was actually different from (and more casual than) what it actually was.

Mike

At the same time that Roswell occurred and War of the Worlds was published? Hmm. I am not sure I agree with you.

Hi,

No. My comment was directed at all comers who will try to discredit my research a la the Gary Stewart documentary. I was just politely throwing down the gauntlet. My facts are unassailable, as evidenced by the "little green men" episode that checks out from one end to the other. You are free to say it is not relevant to the Z case and that KQ is not Z, etc. You are entitled to an opinion. But the facts remain facts and will never change.

If the standard for proving that someone committed five murders is producing more credible evidence than Gary Stewart, then you clearly won. But, thankfully, that does not support a conviction beyond a reasonable doubt.