Kjell Qvale.

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My case has been made on many different threads spread across many message boards since 1999. I am not going to re- post it, especially now. I will pretty much leave the debate over my work to others. I spoke out in an effort to put pressure on the police to do their job. Since that is no longer a consideration, there is no point I can see to continued posting on my facts on message boards for the foreseeable future. I recognize the fact that many posters have their own entrenched opinions as to who Zodiac was, which I know from years of experience I cannot sway no matter how hard I might try. I’ve found it far less stressful after my experiences in the early 2000s (where I ended up in a hospital bed in 2002 with an irregular heartbeat) not to try.

Peace.

Mike Rodelli
dt3mfc@aol.com

Mike,

Will you be writing a book about Kjell Qvale and your investigation of him in relation to the Zodiac case?

JS

By law he can be named as in America the dead cannot be libeled.

Hmm, what about the estate of the deceased, or any enterprise, such as a corporation that might be exposed to losses if the deceased were deefamed?

Nobody is criticizing a company or a car.

The dead cannot be libeled by law.

They should be treated with respect and truthfulness.

Well Kjell is of interest to me for the following reasons:

A) Kjell Qvale’s founded his business that traded under the name ‘British Motor Car Distributors.’ One British vehicle that was produced in the late 60’s through the mid 70’s was the ‘Ford Zodiac.’

B) Armond Pelissetti said Qvale was walking his dog near on Maple Street in the minutes after Zodiac shot Stine and that he had spoken with him briefly. According to site member Mike_r:

"In June 2005, Butterfield called me one night and said that he had just gotten off the phone with Armond Pelissetti. He told me that Pelissetti had specifically asked that Butterfield not tell me what they had discussed. However, there was one detail Buttefield had to confirm and he knew that I was the one to confirm it. So he spilled the beans.

"Pelissetti said that he "kept the man around" and would see other people on the street, speak to them and then go back to this "dog walker." Why did he have to keep going back to him? Pelissetti later said he "cleared" this man based on four factors: age (Fouke had not weighed in yet making the man older), the fact he lived in the neighborhood (we now know that Z was, like the dog walker, a wealthy and powerful man, as per Richard Walter’s profile), clothing (of course, he’d change!) and the fact he was not out of breath (out of breath in his front yard; also this man was a guy who cared about appearance and who kept himself in good shape).

C) Lawrence Kane was, according to reports I have read, a former car dealer. This in itself is evidence of nothing but it does allow for a possible connection between the two to be made.

D) If Qvale really was stood on a drive and not walking his dog and A.P really did keep him around then it could explain one of the discrepancies between Fouke’s account and Pelissetti’s. A.P had stated that he walked down Jackson as far as Maple and saw a ‘man walking his dog’ and after a brief conversation said he turned and walked back up Jackson and onto Cherry. Now only seconds after A.P leaves Jackson & Maple intersection, Fouke arrives there in his patrol car and spots a white male turning onto a drive. (We know Fouke seeing this man must be literally seconds after Pelissetti leaves that intersection because both D.F & A.P agree that Fouke had caught up with A.P while A.P was walking back along Cherry Street.) For years I have questioned where the dog walker was when Fouke arrived at that same place seconds after Pelissetti and also, where was the white male Fouke see’s walking down Jackson when Armond was walking up the same street seconds before and how did Armond not see him? It can all be answered if Mike_r’s version and claim is true because then you realise that there were not two males out there, one on Jackson, the other on Maple, at all. It was the same guy! Armond sees him on a drive ‘just standing there’ and keeps him around before he leaves to go back up Jackson and as he does Fouke approaches and sees this same man turn back onto the same Drive that Armond first mentions seeing him on.

Re: Ford Zodiac – I believe that’s just ever so slightly just a wee tiny bit tenuous. And stupid. The guy was importing sports cars like Jags, Austin Healey’s (later Jensens), MGB’s and so on, from Europe into the US. Would he be re-importing a UK-spec AMERICAN car into the US? I suspect not. Even if it weren’t a dreadful POS, and quite obviously NOT a sportscar.

Never mind that. The big thing for me is that I’ve never been able to figure out why this guy was out walking his dog, unless he was, uh, out walking his dog.

Did he shoot Stine in the head, go into his house, change out of his (inevitably bloodstained) clothes, put his dog on a lead, and come back onto the street?
Is that what we are suggesting happened?
Or did he have the dog in the cab with him, and the kids didn’t see it? (And was the dog blood stained, too then, while they stood around on the street?)
I don’t get it.

By the way, if I was out walking my dog, in my very up-town area, and a bunch of police cars came squealing up with their lights flashing, I might stand in a driveway and look around to see what was going on, personally. I’m quite nosey. I’d want to tell them "No, I haven’t seen anything" too, just to fulfill my public duty. And of course, because I’d be entirely innocent of any wrong-doing.

I do like that he wrote to the newspapers though, including the Chronicle. That I like.

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Never mind that. The big thing for me is that I’ve never been able to figure out why this guy was out walking his dog, unless he was, uh, out walking his dog.

Did he shoot Stine in the head, go into his house, change out of his (inevitably bloodstained) clothes, put his dog on a lead, and come back onto the street?
Is that what we are suggesting happened?
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I don’t suppose it matters whether you spent your day at the office or spent your day hunting and killing cab drivers. Once you get home, poor puppy would still need to go for a walk to do his business as soon as you get home. Otherwise he’s going to do something nasty on that $75,000 rug.

So, to answer your question, sure.

G

Wow!

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Never mind that. The big thing for me is that I’ve never been able to figure out why this guy was out walking his dog, unless he was, uh, out walking his dog.

Did he shoot Stine in the head, go into his house, change out of his (inevitably bloodstained) clothes, put his dog on a lead, and come back onto the street?
Is that what we are suggesting happened?
…

I don’t suppose it matters whether you spent your day at the office or spent your day hunting and killing cab drivers. Once you get home, poor puppy would still need to go for a walk to do his business as soon as you get home. Otherwise he’s going to do something nasty on that $75,000 rug.

So, to answer your question, sure.

G

No Gluk, I believe that no rug was ever pissed upon by Kjelle’s Poodle, never happened. I have been reliably informed that K-9 pooch Poodle’s residing in Pacific Heights have their own en-suit rest room and Kjelle’s pooch was awarded its own gymnasium and fitness coach.

"Re: Ford Zodiac – I believe that’s just ever so slightly just a wee tiny bit tenuous. And stupid."

So speculating that the killer called himself ‘Zodiac’ because he was a fan of Astrology is plausible, but the idea that the offender took his name from a type of vehicle that was manufactured in 1968 is ‘stupid’? Please do enlighten me Smithy as to why it’s ‘stupid’ to speculate that the alias ‘Zodiac’ was inspired by a model of vehicle that was produced and manufactured around the same time ‘He’ appeared?

‘Cos the dear old Zodiac’s a British model of Ford matey. And no – it’s no smarter to presume an astrological connection either, in my valuable personal opinion, since there’s a marvellous watch with exactly the right trademark and logo to look at.

Yes there is a Zodiac watch I agree, but Qvale wasn’t a watch maker, he was a British Vehicle Importer. I am not saying he imported Ford Zodiac’s, I’m simply saying if anyone would likely have knowledge, or be an admirer of Ford Zodiac’s, it’s Qvale because he specialised in British Vehicle Importation.

Nor am I suggesting he’s obviously Zodiac because of it. It’s just one circumstantial fact that can be pointed to in relation to Qvale. I mean you yourself have said on other threads regarding Hal Snook "Well, he was at the scene, wasn’t he?" And I fully agree with you on that. But wasn’t Kjell Qvale in the immediate vicinity of the Stine Murder Scene also? I personally don’t think it’s ‘stupid’ to give several reasons, albeit circumstantially, to support the idea of Qvale possibly being Zodiac.

WC – Yes, you’re right about Mr Qvale, case closed, let’s go home.

WC – Yes, you’re right about Mr Qvale, case closed, let’s go home.

Glad you agree. I have already convinced myself that your comment above is genuine, sincere and literal and not at all sarcastic. (Grins)

But for the record (if we are keeping one *shrugs*) I don’t think Qvale is Zodiac. I said Hals writing is the best likeness to that of Z’s in my unprofessional opinion, I’ve also said Rick Marshalls writing is very similar. I am looking at it objectively and not zeroing in on one suspect with tunnel vision and decide ‘case closed.’