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(@mike_r)
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Hi-

I’ve never seen it (i.e., The Mikado) live, only the 1939 version on VCR tape after I got interested in this case. But to date myself, when I was 11 I went to see a play with my mom, "Arsenic and Old Lace," at my church in NY. The next production was listed as being "The Mikado." I recall pronouncing it as "The Mick-a-Doo." I had no clue, LOL! When we got out of "Arsenic" that night my uncle told me that the three astronauts had died in the Apollo capsule fire while it was on the launch pad. I still remember that night (in January 1967). (And BTW, this is the type of memory I believe people who lived in PH would have about the night of the Stine murder. That is why I found Mr. X’s inability to say where he was, especially when AP spoke to him that night, to be both strange and evasive. It is difficult to imagine a law-abiding citizen not recalling being spoken to by the police on such a famous night. I have been pulled over by the police on four different occasions while driving over the past 40 years. I can vividly remember each encounter. [So obviously none of them was for DUI, LOL!])

Mike

Re: "Little List" – Groucho Version

Postby sandy betts » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:28 am
Mike R ,LOL very funny.
You are correct , that is suspicious that Mr. X couldn’t remember what he was doing that night. Is there any way he slept through all that noise at the park ?
I hope someday you will get to see the Mikado , it is good for anyone interested in the Zodiac case to see at least once. Ricardo took me to the one in S.F. last yr ,done by the Lamplighters, which is the same group that we believe Zodiac saw. I was able to talk to Wm Neil the Mikado, after the play and wanted to know if he was in the Opera back in 69, he told me he was . That was exciting !

Mike Rodelli

Author, The Hunt for Zodiac; 3.9 stars on Amazon and
In The Shadow of Mt. Diablo: The Shocking True Identity of the Zodiac Killer, a second edition in print format. 4.3 Amazon stars and great Editorial reviews. Twitter:@mikerodelli

 
Posted : April 27, 2013 6:41 pm
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Hi Sandy-

No, X did not say anything about sleeping. He said he could not recall exactly where he was that night but that he thought he "should have been out of the country." Well, that may be but not according to Pelissetti! He also interestingly said that he tried but failed to locate his old passport, so he could not prove to me on that day that in 2006 that he was out of the country on 10/11/69. Several years later, an image of his original passport from the 1930s surfaced on the Net (please, post no links!). So he could locate the really old one but not the newer one from 1969.

Mike

Mike Rodelli

Author, The Hunt for Zodiac; 3.9 stars on Amazon and
In The Shadow of Mt. Diablo: The Shocking True Identity of the Zodiac Killer, a second edition in print format. 4.3 Amazon stars and great Editorial reviews. Twitter:@mikerodelli

 
Posted : April 28, 2013 3:32 am
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Hi-

I’ve never seen it (i.e., The Mikado) live, only the 1939 version on VCR tape after I got interested in this case. But to date myself, when I was 11 I went to see a play with my mom, "Arsenic and Old Lace," at my church in NY. The next production was listed as being "The Mikado." I recall pronouncing it as "The Mick-a-Doo." I had no clue, LOL! When we got out of "Arsenic" that night my uncle told me that the three astronauts had died in the Apollo capsule fire while it was on the launch pad. I still remember that night (in January 1967). (And BTW, this is the type of memory I believe people who lived in PH would have about the night of the Stine murder. That is why I found Mr. X’s inability to say where he was, especially when AP spoke to him that night, to be both strange and evasive. It is difficult to imagine a law-abiding citizen not recalling being spoken to by the police on such a famous night. I have been pulled over by the police on four different occasions while driving over the past 40 years. I can vividly remember each encounter. [So obviously none of them was for DUI, LOL!])

Mike

Re: "Little List" – Groucho Version

Postby sandy betts » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:28 am
Mike R ,LOL very funny.
You are correct , that is suspicious that Mr. X couldn’t remember what he was doing that night. Is there any way he slept through all that noise at the park ?
I hope someday you will get to see the Mikado , it is good for anyone interested in the Zodiac case to see at least once. Ricardo took me to the one in S.F. last yr ,done by the Lamplighters, which is the same group that we believe Zodiac saw. I was able to talk to Wm Neil the Mikado, after the play and wanted to know if he was in the Opera back in 69, he told me he was . That was exciting !

I have never bought this argument because it is impossible to say what would register as memorable for any given person. You can’t get into his head and say, "He should remember this because I would." And let’s assume that he is lying, you have no idea why he is lying. Lying does not make him the Zodiac. For all you know, he told his wife he was out of town that night and he was at home having an affair with his secretary, which is why he lied. Do I think that is what happened? No, but I can’t be sure any more that you can.

 
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