Thank you foreigner,
I did a bit more eyeballing with the map you provided,

There are of course other dots (3 from what I can see on the diablo map)

I can not imagine this being of any significance, after 60 odd years I’m certain this must have been spotted and looked into / ruled out by now.

Conversely, I’m surprised to not have found any mention about this from the conspiracy mill forums like this.

It’s just a dot.

Thank you foreigner,
I did a bit more eyeballing with the map you provided,

There are of course other dots (3 from what I can see on the diablo map)

Yeah, I’m seeing dots all over the map now. Someone would have to actually examine the original map to determine anything with certainty though.

I can not imagine this being of any significance, after 60 odd years I’m certain this must have been spotted and looked into / ruled out by now.

I’ve never seen any discussion of it.

Conversely, I’m surprised to not have found any mention about this from the conspiracy mill forums like this.

I take offence to labelling this a "conspiracy mill". Zodiac isn’t a conspiracy. We know he existed and people died. Most of us are here to examine and discuss evidence and we can’t help it if some come out with crazy conspiracy theories. We generally immediately dismiss them but some are not even worth dealing with.

No offence should be taken curious,
Talking freely is what’s most important to accurately convey thoughts and viewpoints.

The takeaway here is,
it most probably has been over looked since whatever date the dots appeared on the diabol maps as we know them.

What I’m learning about 1970’s detectives / police is that they were rather sporadically hopeless. A oversight here would not surprise me in the least.

The ciphers have been the biggest time wasting decoy

And to be fair, it was more a personal dig at my other post.

Sorry.

The main dot you refer to, just east of Sunol is almost in the same position as this object (marked with this pentagon). It is next to Vallecitos Road, integral in the murders of Enedine Molina (35) and boyfriend Fermin Rodriguez (36) by Sunol.

@37.5959479,-121.8687018,97m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en”> https://www.google.co.uk/maps/ @37.59594 … !1e3?hl=en

Zoom out: @37.5925984,-121.8737298,2411m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en”> https://www.google.co.uk/maps/ @37.59259 … !1e3?hl=en

"According to detectives Regional Park Naturalist Richard Angel called the Santa Rita sheriff’s substation last night (Thursday June 8th 1967) and reported hearing two shots in the park area at 10.05 pm. The woman’s body was discovered about 11.00 pm just outside the remote Sunol Regional Park. The body was found by Deputy George Robinson, the first man to arrive at the park. Mrs Molina had been shot in the back (and possibly left wrist). It appeared she had been running when she was shot, deputies reported.
On his way back to the substation about 2.30 am (Deputy George Robinson) spotted a station wagon parked along Vallecitos Road about six miles from the park, stopped to check it and found Rodriguez’s body. He had been shot in the left breast and shoulder bone. The bullets entered his body from the front deputies said. The murder weapon was believed to be a .22 caliber revolver. No gun was found."

The smaller dot to the west of Sunol aligns with: @37.6011464,-121.9234274,157m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en”> https://www.google.co.uk/maps/ @37.60114 … !1e3?hl=en

The main dot you refer to, just east of Sunol is almost in the same position as this object (marked with this pentagon). It is next to Vallecitos Road, integral in the murders of Enedine Molina (35) and boyfriend Fermin Rodriguez (36) by Sunol.

@37.5959479,-121.8687018,97m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en”> https://www.google.co.uk/maps/ @37.59594 … !1e3?hl=en

Zoom out: @37.5925984,-121.8737298,2411m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en”> https://www.google.co.uk/maps/ @37.59259 … !1e3?hl=en

That looks like a pond that has been fenced off. Seems to me the dot aligns more with a stand of trees just north of the pond.

The smaller dot to the west of Sunol aligns with: @37.6011464,-121.9234274,157m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en”> https://www.google.co.uk/maps/ @37.60114 … !1e3?hl=en

There is a quarry near there too, have no idea if it was there during that time though.

I was ready to dismiss this as just anomalies or specks of dirt, it is after all a piece torn from a larger map and apparently rather well used judging by the tack holes in it, but, it’s turned off cold and rainy here and I got nothing better to do so I’ve been giving it a look over.

There is something just south of Livermore that looks more like a speck of dirt than the other dots, but it matches up pretty well with a park area.

I noticed two dots just east of Alum Rock Park in the lower right corner. Lower in that same corner there appears to be a dot below Mt Hamilton/Quimby RD.

Higher up on the right side, due west of Walnut Creek and just past N Gate Rd appears to be another dot.

There is some sort of strange red dot above the 0 on Zodiac’s symbol and just below the 4 of Route 4.

Seems to be a couple more tiny black dots to the far left south of Woodside along 35.

Most likely just specks there naturally but it’s a bit odd they all seem to be close to a roadway.

Umm there is a red dot for stines murder?
Who’s been playing with these maps?
The original map shows a black dot (coincidentally) around stines murder,
it’s turns red on the zodiacs map?

And I also see the red dot you mention curious which lead me to find the above.

I think that red dot you spotted curious just got a whole lot more interesting!

The original map shows a black dot (coincidentally) around stines murder,
it’s turns red on the zodiacs map?

I see the red dot you are talking about, between where it says Geary and then BLVD. I can’t tell really but it does seem to be a black spot on the original map, so it might just be due to photo copying or the color fading out over time that makes it red on the Zodiac map.

And also, now that I look at the original map the red dot I mentioned is there. Not sure why but I’m going to dismiss it since it’s on a map not touched by Zodiac.

I do see another black dot though, just above the O in Vallejo. It’s on both the original and Zodiac map.

It’s nice to find something new and interesting,

But I have to tell you I am now finding discrepancies between copies of " mt diablo maps"

I found a 1970’s Black and white copy of the "mt diablo map"
I have fair reason to believe that the two dots near Sunol were on the zodiacs map and that
the red dot (red as we know it to be) is also on the black and white copy of zodiacs "mt diablo".

Double check that red dot Curiouscat, I don’t see it on untouched originals but I find it on black and white copies.

I’ll provide a link of blank and white copy shortly.

Don’t laugh at this black and white copy:
http://ciphermysteries.com/wp-content/u … 1/map2.gif

Yes there are dots everywhere, but look closely.

Making a assumption that this is a very old copy of the original Z map – untouched by digitalisation. (Hasn’t entered MS paint a thousand times)

It’s nice to find something new and interesting,

Yeah, this has been something different to look at. Probably nothing but it’s worth some investigation.

But I have to tell you I am now finding discrepancies between copies of " mt diablo maps"

I’ve been relying on this one, for one thing it’s large and easy to see, but it’s also from Tom Voight’s site and most likely a first gen photo of the actual Zodiac map. It hasn’t been photocopied multiple times.

http://www.zodiackiller.com/HugeMap.html

I have fair reason to believe that the two dots near Sunol were on the zodiacs map

Those two that you first spotted are most certainly anomalies only on the Zodiac map. What they are is the question. Could be dirt/dust, could be where someone barely touched the tip of a pen or pencil. They’re rather distinct and seem round, not smeared or irregular shaped the way dirt or stains would be.

the red dot (red as we know it to be) is also on the black and white copy of zodiacs "mt diablo".

Yeah, but they are on the original non Zodiac map too. I don’t know the origin of that original non Zodiac map but I have to assume they are there from the printing process.

http://www.zodiackillerfacts.com/images … 0LARGE.jpg

Yep, i see the red dot now on both maps now.

What about the black dot near Stines murder turning red on z map, thoughts?

Black dots-water tanks http://geokov.com/education/topo-map-sy … egend.aspx

Black dots-water tanks http://geokov.com/education/topo-map-sy … egend.aspx

We are talking about the differences between the zodiacs map and the untouched sample.