Might should have posted this in the "Known Victims" section but since they are newbie questions I figured this thread is better here than cluttering up that section.
I’ve been reading through the Lake Berryessa police reports and have several questions about some things I noticed. I figure they have been discussed before but can’t find them in any of the other sections, so I’m hoping some of the old vets at this Zodiac thing can provide the answers.
I used the report at this site, so, link for reference, I’ll include page numbers if another newbie such as myself wants to look at them (I hope it’s ok to link to this site)
http://www.zodiackiller.com/LBReport1.html
Page 9 http://www.zodiackiller.com/LBReport9.html
A report on one of the three girls who saw the guy watching them while at the beach mentions a couple in a car with Arizona tags in the parking area. It seems from the report that the girls knew them, but I’m not sure. Looks like they forgot to redact their names, as they are in the report and when mentioned later their last names are redacted.
I don’t recall ever seeing them mentioned before and was wondering if the police interviewed them. There’s nothing in the police report about it if so. I would think they were interviewed, since their names were known.
Page 17 http://www.zodiackiller.com/LBReport17.html
There is an inventory list of some items retrieved from the area the attack occurred. The items are – One multi-colored blanket , One Army type field jacket, Several lengths of plastic line, then two items that are redacted from the report.
Has it ever been determined who the Army jacket belonged to? Has it ever been told what the two redacted items were?
Page 17-18 http://www.zodiackiller.com/LBReport17.html http://www.zodiackiller.com/LBReport18.html
Soil samples were taken. One from where the attack occurred. One was from behind the tree where he stood to put on the hood and one by Hartnell’s car.
I’m assuming by "Soil samples" they mean footprint casts?
Page 30 http://www.zodiackiller.com/LBReport30.html
In a California Bureau of Investigation report it mentions them retrieving from the Napa County Sheriff’s office – "5 sheets of paper with printing" and a "Charlie Brown card with printing".
Have these ever been viewed? Are they mailings from Zodiac?
Thanks for any answers!
I’m a bit disheartened about the lack of responses here, not sure it means these questions are so stupid they aren’t worth answering or if no one knows the answers. 
I think it’s more of , no one knows, if there was any more signifigance to items like the Charlie Brown Card or pages. It was never released.
The did compaction tests on the soil to guestimate tts e suspects weight… assuming they had the right set of prints
Soil samples could likely pick up residue from his boots, fibers from his vehicle’s carpet, hair strands, etc. They may also have considered whether he urinated. The Charlie Brown card and five pages, my guess were secured from the named suspects for handwriting comparison, but I’m sure it’s not from Zodiac.
The Charlie Brown card was written by a suspect at the time…Glenn Albertson. Just something they used to view his handwriting…wasn’t mailed or passed off as Zodiac or anything.
The redacted items were a box of unopened condoms and a (dirty?) joke book. I’d have to go back and look at exactly what it read.
EDIT: Playboy party joke book
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“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
I hadn’t heard of albertson before. What’s to know about him?
I hadn’t heard of albertson before. What’s to know about him?
I’ll have to go back and research. I know one of the guys mentioned had "stayed" at Napa State. I can’t remember if that was Albertson. One of the docs there had talked about one of the guys being let out for a weekend furlough and mentioned he was capable of doing such a thing. So nice of them to let him out…
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
Soil samples could likely pick up residue from his boots, fibers from his vehicle’s carpet, hair strands, etc. They may also have considered whether he urinated.
OK, thanks, and thanks everyone else.
I’m sure you’re right about the soil samples. I was a bit confused when I saw that and thought perhaps they meant the foot print casts, but they are mentioned also and don’t seem to have come from the same spots as the soil samples. I wonder if they found anything in the soil samples.
The Charlie Brown card was written by a suspect at the time…Glenn Albertson. Just something they used to view his handwriting…wasn’t mailed or passed off as Zodiac or anything.
Thanks Tahoe. It was mentioned in with the report, same page, as the suspects so that’s why, I’m sure, probably the same with the five pages with writing.
The redacted items were a box of unopened condoms and a (dirty?) joke book. I’d have to go back and look at exactly what it read.
EDIT: Playboy party joke book
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Interesting, stuff left behind by other partiers I suppose, or maybe Shepard and Hartnell. Sounds like they gathered anything they could find that might be related, like the green bottle. I wonder if Hartnell remembered the bottle being in the stump when they arrived.
Wonder where the Army jacket came from too. Might have just been in the area so they took it just in case. They usually have last names on them.
Additionally, if they locate a suspect in the crime, they can test the soil composition on his footwear and compare it to the soil samples from the areas of the crime scene he stood. Almost like a soil fingerprint, if you will.
I hadn’t heard of albertson before. What’s to know about him?
I’ll have to go back and research. I know one of the guys mentioned had "stayed" at Napa State. I can’t remember if that was Albertson. One of the docs there had talked about one of the guys being let out for a weekend furlough and mentioned he was capable of doing such a thing. So nice of them to let him out…
The guy from Napa hospital has his name in the report, it’s shown as Griffin Raymond with the last name redacted.
These redacted reports are the only ones I have seen.
Additionally, if they locate a suspect in the crime, they can test the soil composition on his footwear and compare it to the soil samples from the areas of the crime scene he stood. Almost like a soil fingerprint, if you will.
Yes, true, good point.
