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(@blind-bat)
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I bet that unsolved cipher of Z’s is a cook book.
Just like in the twilight episode he copied the idea from.
That book has this info in it?

Not my favorite TZ Ep but to cook for man or what ever it was titled was a good Ep. I preferred the Hitch Hiker one and the Doll with Telly Salvas. Your best thing you contributed to the board was the Ep about The Fugitive and the School Bus. Anyways even though this is about a TV show. We need to get back on topic how the History Channel sux and this Zodiac show, Is going nowhere and just ratings for them.

Are you saying the history fake bs is going no where while we’re profiling the Zodiac which is the actual topic?
We’re on course flying away from mount Diablo?
Oh yes, that right front tire blew out and the kiddos went bouncing out the back door.
Ever look at the bomb layout?
Identical to the JFK route layout.
It’s not hard to know the electrical layout on a washing machine if your dad owned a hardware store in SanDeigo.
Might even buy guns and ammo through it too.

 
Posted : December 3, 2017 7:09 am
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hi blindbat …..can you elaborate on your statement "Identical to the JFK route layout." please?

thanks!

 
Posted : December 3, 2017 8:33 am
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Elaborate in another thread please. ;)


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : December 3, 2017 9:22 am
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Cool to see a lot of new faces on here. Are one of you Zodiac??? :)

The show… I dunno, I have mixed feelings but what it all comes down to is what they find and/or don’t find. I have been to Richard’s site (which is excellent!) many times and read about the 13 moon phases before, and always found that fascinating. Again, great work, Richard. Very cool to see that they included that in the show.

So far I think the show has been interesting. I just finished episode three about an hour ago and my mind is racing, filling up with wacky ideas.

If Ross didn’t kill Cheri Jo, what if he was there watching? What if he wrote the Bates letters and the confession letter but was not the killer? He goes up north and eventually becomes Zodiac. Just an idea to ponder, and one of the many ideas running through my head. Episode one had a lot on Ross, and I think we will see plenty more of him.

With two episodes remaining, what else will we find out? Is there any chance that they mention Fred Manalli? I wish his sister’s DNA would be tested, but I doubt that will ever happen. What will we find out from the testing of Cheri Jo’s pants? What else will we find in the 340? Are they going to mention that "badge" in the middle of the cipher? Will there be any new names brought up? I don’t think Zodiac ever planted a bomb, but if he did, they really only looked in one spot. Someone else mentioned that was boring, and I agree, but they should have kept looking just in case.

Although there are several things I dislike about the series so far, I’m dying to see the last two episodes!

EDIT: I also hope that they have come across Randall Clemons’ webite and maybe look into his dot theory. Especially with this "new Donna Lass cipher," which has several dots in it. Where did this cipher come from? Who is this Texas man that provides a possible solution to it? Hopefully he was at least looked into a bit. One more thing to add, which maybe I should not post, but Larry Lowe seems like he is full of crap in episode three. He seemed nervous and twitchy and very easily could have read a lot online and then made up a story about how he knew Kane. If he is being honest then that is huge IMO!

A few minutes ago on a toilet not very far, far away….

 
Posted : December 3, 2017 3:35 pm
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I have lost all interest in this show. Looking for an improbable bomb plant at Mt. Diablo and wasting half of the air time on it was the last straw.
Their supercomputer looks more like a movie prop than a functional computer. The History Channel really has a bad habit of airing shows like "Hunting Hitler", the Treasure of Oak Island" ,"Hunting Jack the Ripper", "Searching for Space Aliens", and in the end they never have any conclusive evidence to prove any of their speculations. Inevitably you watch the last episode and then say to yourself, "Well that was a complete waste of time." As an example the last episode of the Treasure of Oak Island someone digs up a toy cap gun from the 1950’s with a metal detector and the rest of the hour that was the center piece of the entire show. WTF really? You know how to grow mushrooms? Keep them in the dark and feed them horse crap. Or instead you could just watch the History Channel.

I agree. The "History" channel seems to have a history of putting out these BS shows, and of course hyping them ad nauseum in commercial after commercial. The teaser this week was, "We cracked the 340 code!" Then nothing was mentioned about it in the episode. :evil:

Personally, I think there are way more guys here who are more likely to solve these crimes than that this overhyped History Channel group…even with their supercomputer.

If they did crack the 340, they won’t show that until the last episode. That’s how TV works. I hope it’s true, but not counting on it. At the very least, at least the show has given us plenty to discuss and is drawing more people into the case.

A few minutes ago on a toilet not very far, far away….

 
Posted : December 3, 2017 3:55 pm
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How’s that unsolved cipher working out with that bookk?

Yeah, the the numerical-astrological ciphers outlined in book three of the Steganographia couldn’t possibly be helpful here.

Regardless, I am of the opinion that cracking those ciphers will not bring you any closer to solving the crimes of zodiac.

 
Posted : December 3, 2017 5:48 pm
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How’s that unsolved cipher working out with that bookk?

Yeah, the the numerical-astrological ciphers outlined in book three of the Steganographia couldn’t possibly be helpful here.

Regardless, I am of the opinion that cracking those ciphers will not bring you any closer to solving the crimes of zodiac.

Agreed.
Finger prints make perfect sense.

 
Posted : December 3, 2017 6:12 pm
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Off to San Francisco…


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : December 4, 2017 2:44 am
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Wow let me take a guess at the soultion.
IWILLNOTGIVEYOUMYNAMEBUTIWASABLETOSLAMYBROTHER

 
Posted : December 4, 2017 2:54 am
Pretty Polly
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I’m hoping they cracked the 340. I’m expecting that they did not.

 
Posted : December 4, 2017 9:22 am
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I think that after the Zodiac 408 cipher was decoded with such ease after just a couple of weeks he was shocked and taken aback. However the Zodiac is or was an egotistical person who believed that he was a genius. The person enjoyed giving the impression that his intellect was so great that in comparison the police looked like fools. When the 408 cipher was cracked by a couple of teachers in their spare time he had to save face. That’s why I think that the 340 cipher is a hoax. It is simply a contrived collection of symbols with no underlying intelligent text. After nearly 50 years of the best and the brightest trying to crack the cipher it has all resulted in failure. Lets face it the Nazi Enigma code with all its complexity was cracked in a couple of years. The fake cipher was the Zodiac’s way of thumping his chest and telling us that he’s a genius and everyone else are fools. For some reason we seem to think that famous serial killers like Jack the Ripper or the Zodiac must have been criminal geniuses. In actuality if their identities were known we would be badly disappointed. There is nothing special about either of them. Both were insane sadistic cowardly monsters who preyed on their helpless victims with stealth and surprise.
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So I will be surprised if the History Channel comes up with a solution to the 340 cipher. Just my two cents.

 
Posted : December 4, 2017 11:42 am
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I think that after the Zodiac 408 cipher was decoded with such ease after just a couple of weeks he was shocked and taken aback. However the Zodiac is or was an egotistical person who believed that he was a genius. The person enjoyed giving the impression that his intellect was so great that in comparison the police looked like fools. When the 408 cipher was cracked by a couple of teachers in their spare time he had to save face. That’s why I think that the 340 cipher is a hoax. It is simply a contrived collection of symbols with no underlying intelligent text. After nearly 50 years of the best and the brightest trying to crack the cipher it has all resulted in failure. Lets face it the Nazi Enigma code with all its complexity was cracked in a couple of years. The fake cipher was the Zodiac’s way of thumping his chest and telling us that he’s a genius and everyone else are fools. For some reason we seem to think that famous serial killers like Jack the Ripper or the Zodiac must have been criminal geniuses. In actuality if their identities were known we would be badly disappointed. There is nothing special about either of them. Both were insane sadistic cowardly monsters who preyed on their helpless victims with stealth and surprise.
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So I will be surprised if the History Channel comes up with a solution to the 340 cipher. Just my two cents.

Well, I’d say Zodiac was rather intelligent just based on the fact we still don’t know who he is/was after all of these years. Of course, we don’t really know he hasn’t been identified either. Many have their own favorite POI and one of them might well be right. Zodiac’s true genius was in sowing confusion. That doesn’t require some one of superior intelligence, someone smarter than everyone, just someone smarter than many who are chasing them.

But speaking of someone being smarter than everyone else, that’s why I have a strong suspicion Zodiac’s "unbreakable codes" are actually just gibberish that don’t mean anything, which is why they can’t be cracked. I mean, I can see the Zodiac being smarter than a lot of people, but no matter who he is or level of intelligence, he’s not smarter than everyone. Someone out there is just as good or better than he is, it’s just the way things work.

We’ll see what this show comes up with with their claim of cracking the code.

 
Posted : December 4, 2017 9:20 pm
mrman7
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I bet that unsolved cipher of Z’s is a cook book.
Just like in the twilight episode he copied the idea from.
That book has this info in it?

Z truly wanted to serve man I suppose. It is the most dangerous game.

Your dad is not the Zodiac.

 
Posted : December 4, 2017 9:28 pm
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Well, I’d say Zodiac was rather intelligent just based on the fact we still don’t know who he is/was after all of these years. Of course, we don’t really know he hasn’t been identified either. Many have their own favorite POI and one of them might well be right. Zodiac’s true genius was in sowing confusion. That doesn’t require some one of superior intelligence, someone smarter than everyone, just someone smarter than many who are chasing them.

But speaking of someone being smarter than everyone else, that’s why I have a strong suspicion Zodiac’s "unbreakable codes" are actually just gibberish that don’t mean anything, which is why they can’t be cracked. I mean, I can see the Zodiac being smarter than a lot of people, but no matter who he is or level of intelligence, he’s not smarter than everyone. Someone out there is just as good or better than he is, it’s just the way things work.

We’ll see what this show comes up with with their claim of cracking the code.

The Zodiac was more lucky than smart. He came within the skin of his teeth of being caught after he murdered Paul Stein. However he was smart enough to commit his crimes over a wide area. One of the other reasons he evaded captured is that his crimes were in various counties and cities with different police departments that had difficulty cooperating with each other and comparing the evidence. I don’t know if the Zodiac did this through a conscious effort on his part or not.
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I don’t believe the show will crack the 340 cipher. And the DNA testing from the Riverside crime will be inconclusive or nothing at all. This show was made many months ago and if they had DNA evidence it would have been headlines immediately.

 
Posted : December 4, 2017 10:30 pm
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The Zodiac was more lucky than smart.

There’s that old saying "I’d rather be lucky than good anyday", but yeah, I’m not saying he was some genius, he was above average intelligence I’d say, but it didn’t really take a genius to do what he did.

He came within the skin of his teeth of being caught after he murdered Paul Stein.

Maybe, we don’t really know for fact it was Zodiac the officers saw.

However he was smart enough to commit his crimes over a wide area. One of the other reasons he evaded captured is that his crimes were in various counties and cities with different police departments that had difficulty cooperating with each other and comparing the evidence. I don’t know if the Zodiac did this through a conscious effort on his part or not.

Yeah, it might have been a wide area just due to the nature of his traveling lifestyle. It’s hard to know what he did intentionally.
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I don’t believe the show will crack the 340 cipher. And the DNA testing from the Riverside crime will be inconclusive or nothing at all. This show was made many months ago and if they had DNA evidence it would have been headlines immediately.

Agreed, I think we would have known by now if they had actually cracked the code too.

 
Posted : December 5, 2017 1:12 am
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