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Tahoe27
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Kenneth Mains advised me on Friday, the RPD threatened legal action if Mains released the reports.

He was genuine in is willing and wanting to release those reports. He didn’t think they would go as far a taking legal action. Reflective of RPD’s stance on not wanting anyone to know what’s in them.

I am grateful they are in his hands.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : March 15, 2020 7:22 am
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What could RPD be so afraid of? Makes me even more eager to see them!
I have in my possession a business card that belonged to my boyfriend (poi) that could be a possible clue (if it turns out he had any involvement). On the back, in his tiny printing, there are numbers that make me wonder if it could be a note he wrote to himself re. the file number of Cheri’s case.

He’d shown me how he could write his name in code using a stick on the beach and it was the (aen, etc.) and explained "it was like leapfrog." (I posted about this or sent Sandy a pm re. it).

So, if he used the same method on the card, it could be the file # minus a digit IIRC. The card has 480-362 then what looks like Inndocin 25M6 #20 on the line below that. Then on the third line the word "Snyder" and below that 11.12.77 RL. Under that is a phone number and below that the name of a friend of his who is deceased and under that two more names with phone numbers (one is a Bob and the other is Mom) and something that looks like Caualiea Westchester.

All in all I am probably letting my imagination run away with me but wonder if the Snyder, etc. could be a clue to ammunition (I am not familiar with this like Sandy and some others are). There is a big "X" he has written over all this so looking at it, you’d think it just was something he crossed out. At first, I thought it pertained to Indocin and something he was getting for his mother (who had arthritis).

 
Posted : March 15, 2020 8:39 am
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Sadly the offer of releasing the document is off due to Rpd promise of legal suit. This case is doomed. Another strange story added to so many other ones

 
Posted : March 15, 2020 10:53 am
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If what can’t be released is just the police reports, Amen. There probably isn’t anything in them that isn’t already known from all the other information that has been seen such as photographs, the autopsy report, information re. the reenactment, etc.

Certainly Det. Mains must abide by whatever agreements were made when he was given this information.

If there is anything outstandingly new in them, could he just dance around whatever in a general fashion? He could investigate on his own and then reveal whatever came from that, possibly.

Since he has the access to these reports, why couldn’t he just issue a statement such as "there is nothing we don’t already know in these of any significant interest." Or if there is, just say that "there is new information that could be significant but I am not at liberty to disclose this due to the threat of legal action against me by RPD."

 
Posted : March 15, 2020 7:11 pm
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Is Det. Mains familiar with the many Bates-related postings here? Could one email him one’s POI info? If so, what is his email address?

 
Posted : March 15, 2020 8:33 pm
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His public Facebook page is below. If you look on the ‘about’ section you will find all his contact info. :D

https://www.facebook.com/DetectiveKennethLMains/

 
Posted : March 16, 2020 6:19 am
Chaucer
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This is patently ridiculous.

Police reports are public record. If Ken Mains obtained them legally (which I assume he did) then he has every right to share them with whomever he chooses. Government agencies will always threaten legal action to cover their asses, but it is usually a toothless threat. Any lawyer worth his salt would tell Mains the same thing.

Mains should release them regardless of what RPD wants or says.

“Murder will out, this my conclusion.”
– Geoffrey Chaucer

 
Posted : March 16, 2020 6:14 pm
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Hi,

I think it is much easier to tell someone else to defy LE and dare them (or anyone, for that matter) to sue you than to take that step yourself, if you were the one defying LE and potentially courting the lawsuit. And that is regardless of how remote the possibility is that you will actually be sued. We have to allow Mains to weigh his options and do what HE feels comfortable doing, not what we want him to do to satisfy our collective curiosity.

If we are wrong and he does get sued, who here is going to contribute to his defense fund? We will jusr shrug, say we were wrong, go on with our own lives and simply leave him to deal with the financial and other potential fallout of his decision.

Mike Rodelli

Author, The Hunt for Zodiac; 3.9 stars on Amazon and
In The Shadow of Mt. Diablo: The Shocking True Identity of the Zodiac Killer, a second edition in print format. 4.3 Amazon stars and great Editorial reviews. Twitter:@mikerodelli

 
Posted : March 16, 2020 6:37 pm
Chaucer
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Hi,

I think it is much easier to tell someone else to defy LE and dare them (or anyone, for that matter) to sue you than to take that step yourself, if you were the one defying LE and potentially courting the lawsuit. And that is regardless of how remote the possibility is that you will actually be sued. We have to allow Mains to weigh his options and do what HE feels comfortable doing, not what we want him to do to satisfy our collective curiosity.

If we are wrong and he does get sued, who here is going to contribute to his defense fund? We will jusr shrug, say we were wrong, go on with our own lives and simply leave him to deal with the financial and other potential fallout of his decision.

I can say with certainty that if I were in Ken’s shoes, I would release the files, RPD be damned. In fact, if he wants to send me the files, I will release them publicly myself.

“Murder will out, this my conclusion.”
– Geoffrey Chaucer

 
Posted : March 16, 2020 7:15 pm
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The sad thing in this another sad story of the case is that kenneth should have asked privately RPD their position on the release. It would have been better to keep this whole thing under wrap until the RPD take an official position on the matter. Everything in this case tend to grow and raise so high expectations that the backlash is certain to happen. Now how many people (included me) will ask themselves what RPD try to hide from the public knowledge ? even if it is legitimate from their parts of course the question will remain….

 
Posted : March 16, 2020 10:50 pm
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What is RPD hiding from the public? Simple. Their mistakes.

 
Posted : March 17, 2020 3:27 am
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Why so little information re. her job at the bank? What was her position? Did she work with the public, ie. as a teller? What were her hours? Who were her friends there? Any complaints re. harrassment from males such as supervisors, co-workers, customers, custodians, parking attendants?

Where is her diary? Isn’t there a chain of command with this type of evidence?

Why isn’t her brother coming forth and pressuring the RPD to release all previously unreleased evidence?

 
Posted : March 17, 2020 3:38 am
Tahoe27
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Hi,

I think it is much easier to tell someone else to defy LE and dare them (or anyone, for that matter) to sue you than to take that step yourself, if you were the one defying LE and potentially courting the lawsuit. And that is regardless of how remote the possibility is that you will actually be sued. We have to allow Mains to weigh his options and do what HE feels comfortable doing, not what we want him to do to satisfy our collective curiosity.

If we are wrong and he does get sued, who here is going to contribute to his defense fund? We will jusr shrug, say we were wrong, go on with our own lives and simply leave him to deal with the financial and other potential fallout of his decision.

This. ;)


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : March 17, 2020 5:17 am
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If I were in Mains’ shoes, I would suggest to RPD that part of discovery would be to uncover as much info about their ex-police chief and any enablers as my lawyer could manage.

 
Posted : March 17, 2020 7:55 am
Marshall
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This is patently ridiculous.

Police reports are public record…

If this is true, could someone else also obtain them?

 
Posted : March 17, 2020 1:51 pm
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