Plot twist: What If theres DNA that originated from a female? The twist and turns this case may take is not known.

I have a better non-probable plot twist scenario. Suppose Z, before leaving LHR, collected a saliva sample from David, and used that to affix postage stamps to his letters. Imagine the reaction of LE if that’s to whom the DNA evidence leads back.

Highly unlikely, the genetic code was only cracked in the late 60’s and only the most prominent scientists of the time could have ever imagined that DNA being would be used in LE like it is today.

Plot twist: What If theres DNA that originated from a female? The twist and turns this case may take is not known.

I have a better non-probable plot twist scenario. Suppose Z, before leaving LHR, collected a saliva sample from David, and used that to affix postage stamps to his letters. Imagine the reaction of LE if that’s to whom the DNA evidence leads back.

Highly unlikely, the genetic code was only cracked in the late 60’s and only the most prominent scientists of the time could have ever imagined that DNA being would be used in LE like it is today.

But… if Z was not concerned about using his own saliva while sealing letters and affixing stamps, wouldn’t there be an abundance of Z DNA recovered long before now?

I’m not saying my little scenario is at all likely, but it does appear Z seemed to sense danger in licking the stamps of his letters. And someone who had that concern would moisten them some other way – either with a neutral substance like water, or a misdirection like someone else’s saliva. The latter would be far more clever, and that of a victim, used months after that victim’s demise, would be exquisitely perplexing to LE.

Didn’t ALA have other people lick stamps for him? NOT saying ALA was Z (way too heavy) but he’s an example of a guy apparently viewing saliva as potential evidence to not leave on things.

Allen’s main accuser (can’t remember his name) said Allen had other people lick stamps for him, but was it really true?

Allen’s main accuser (can’t remember his name) said Allen had other people lick stamps for him, but was it really true?

sounds like someone with a grudge, if i’m correct that was only mentioned after the tests not prior.

Even so, in 1967 etc DNA advances were so unforeseeable, finger prints, blood type and fiber identification were really the only forensic tools of the time, i mean it was late 68 that the helix structure of dna was even discovered let alone its future uses. The Zodiac for his part probably littered the scenes of the crimes with his DNA.

On the matter of the phylectic code which came to prominence in 68~? i often wonder if the Z340 is actually based around this concept, 23 chromosomes, 24 letters of the alphabet…

Not to be so technical about it, but Watson and Crick published their paper on the double-helix in 1953 and were awarded the Nobel Prize in 1962 for that work.

Anybody semi-versed in the field would understand the implications for individualization in forensics work. But, imagine the bravado of someone who kills in 1969 and avoids leaving DNA evidence purposefully. That means such a hypothetical killer thought out ALL the angles beforehand. It’s a stretch to think Zodiac had such foresight, but it’s not entirely out of the realm of possibility. I mean, doesn’t the nerdy, loner scientist sitting at a workbench 9-5, M-F fit the profile amazingly well?

My mistake, you are correct.

Allen’s main accuser (can’t remember his name) said Allen had other people lick stamps for him, but was it really true?

I posted this from the Sacramento Bee earlier in the thread…….Det. Poyser said more than one person claimed to lick ALA stamps.

https://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/arti … 20689.html

"Poyser also said Allen was known to have asked other people to lick stamps and envelopes for him, claiming he didn’t like the taste of the glue. "One of his friends actually said he did it for him, and we’ve had a couple people who lived in the neighborhood at the time say they did it as children," he said."

So they tested all those people as well to find a connection right?

So they tested all those people as well to find a connection right?

Wouldn’t hurt to ask them. If it made them sweat then you might be onto something.

Allen was not Z, deal with it, people!

Allen was not Z, deal with it, people!

ALA all along would be the most uninteresting conclusion possible, so I assume most are comfortable with your assertion.

So they tested all those people as well to find a connection right?

DNA testing can be expensive so I highly doubt they test everyone they question. What they could do however is collect a swab sample and store it for use in the future if needed.

Allen was not Z, deal with it, people!

Even if SFPD and VPD came back and said they had a 100% DNA match to someone other than ALA, some people would still claim it had to be Allen.

So they tested all those people as well to find a connection right?

DNA testing can be expensive so I highly doubt they test everyone they question. What they could do however is collect a swab sample and store it for use in the future if needed.

99 bucks. But for now, nothing to test the alleged ‘stamp lickers’, or anyone else, against.

So they tested all those people as well to find a connection right?

I have no idea.

I found this rather "Cryptic Post" from Tom…

Tom had taken down the DNA thread after deciding it was a bad idea.

He decided to take DNA questions privately via PM or Email 2 days ago

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/zodiack … ml#p137756

DNA questions — please contact me privately

Via PM or tomvoigt@zodiackiller.com

Today he wrote…..

"Hopefully I’ll be back tomorrow and can answer inquiries."

Has anyone PM or Emailed Tom with DNA Questions? If so did you get a Reply?