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truthandsoul
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Possibly tying paint chips found at 5 or 6 crime scenes in Santa Barbara and Sacramento back to a Sacramento contractor (who was working in SB during the time of the ’79 Manning/Offerman murders):

www.noozhawk.com/article/santa_barbara_ … ase_201309

 
Posted : September 8, 2013 6:54 am
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Todays Ear/Ons story from the Sac Bee

http://www.sacbee.com/2013/09/21/575637 … leads.html

 
Posted : September 23, 2013 3:29 am
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Any one have a link to that town hall meeting photo?


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : September 24, 2013 6:46 am
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A quote from the Sacbee story that Jay posted.

Out of consideration for the victims, Clark said investigators avoid recontacting them if possible. But as new leads emerge, he said, he would be happy to speak with any of the victims who might want to review their statements or who think they could provide additional information. Included, he said, are burglary victims who were told by sheriff’s investigators at the time that the break-ins were believed to have been committed by the East Area Rapist.

Huh?!? Since when does LE not speak with victims for their input?

www.santarosahitchhikermurders.com

 
Posted : September 24, 2013 7:46 am
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Any one have a link to that town hall meeting photo?

During the time of the EAR attacks in Sacramento, there were several town meetings held, to warn residents about EAR and discuss what can be done to stop him. At one of them, a man got up and said the police must not be telling the truth about the MO of these attacks, because no man would stand by and let his wife be raped, he certainly would not. Later, this man’s home was attacked by the EAR, and his wife was raped, while the husband was bound. Police felt that EAR had attended this town hall meeting.

I was told the picture below is from that 1976 EAR town hall meeting, though someone else says it might be a different EAR town hall meeting, from November 1977. In any event, it does seem almost certain that EAR/ONS attended one or more of these meetings.

I thought any single male attending this meeting should be looked at. There is a single male, I think, sitting next to a couple.

The man on the left and the woman appear to be a couple as they are the same age and are sitting close to each other. The "Ski Jacket Man" is not sitting close to the woman and appears to be much younger, so I do think he is there as a single man, which is odd.

Awe questioned if this man has a camera around his neck?

Is he a reporter? Or police detective?

Does someone recognize him as a reporter or detective?

Could he possibly be the EAR/ONS, perhaps posing as a reporter? Several things stand out about this man.

He appears to be a single male in a meeting composed almost entirely of couples or lone females.

He is the only person wearing a winter jacket, bulky and heavy. Awe noted this. Could that be to conceal something? It does at quick glance make him look heavier than the EAR descriptions of 160 pounds, but he does appear to really weigh about 160 pounds.

He bears a clear similarity to the Maggiore and VR sketches. The hair, the part, the face structure, the nose.

EAR was always described as clean shaven and thin 160 pounds, so perhaps a beard and bulky jacket gave EAR the confidence to do what is a damn ballsy and creepy move, attending a town hall about him, and then targeting a speaker.

"Ski jacket man" at EAR Town Hall vs. Sketch of Maggiore killer/possible EAR/ONS

"Ski jacket man" at EAR Town Hall vs. Sketch of Visalia Ransacker/possible EAR-ONS

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Posted : September 24, 2013 7:58 am
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OMFG!!!

Isn’t that Todd from Breaking Bad?!

 
Posted : September 24, 2013 8:18 am
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No that is the sketch of the murderer of the Maggiore’s, who is also probably the EAR/ONS.

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Posted : September 24, 2013 8:22 am
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Thanks AK! That’s the one I was talking about. The kid in front of the one you highlight is interesting too.

The one close-up of that group of people is so clear. Did you do that?


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : September 24, 2013 8:27 am
AK Wilks
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Thanks AK! That’s the one I was talking about. The kid in front of the one you highlight is interesting too.

The one close-up of that group of people is so clear. Did you do that?

You are welcome! Glad to help.

No that very sharp image was produced by Arch of http://www.ear-ons.com .

AweShucks and me made the closeups and sketch comps.

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Posted : September 24, 2013 8:47 am
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No that is the sketch of the murderer of the Maggiore’s, who is also probably the EAR/ONS.

Kidding.

 
Posted : September 24, 2013 3:43 pm
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http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local … 12121.html

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Posted : October 1, 2013 9:30 pm
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http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Detectives-Seek-Original-Night-Stalker-225912121.html

I see they are claiming the map is of a neighbourhood in Goleta. I looked but haven’t found it. The general layout around Lake Los Carneros Park seems to match generally but not any of the details on the map.


I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.

 
Posted : October 2, 2013 5:03 am
AK Wilks
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http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Detectives-Seek-Original-Night-Stalker-225912121.html

I see they are claiming the map is of a neighbourhood in Goleta. I looked but haven’t found it. The general layout around Lake Los Carneros Park seems to match generally but not any of the details on the map.

Trav did you read the post by jigisup on the EAR/ONS board or come to that idea about Lake Los Carneros independently?

Do you think I have the correct orientation?

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Posted : October 2, 2013 9:16 am
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Trav did you read the post by jigisup on the EAR/ONS board or come to that idea about Lake Los Carneros independently?

Do you think I have the correct orientation?

Independently AK. I was watching/listening to the video on the link you posted and my ears pricked up when the detective said that the map was a carbon copy of an area he’d stalked in Goleta. I just went straight to Google Earth and LLC is pretty hard to miss once you arrive there.

Yes, you have the right orientation IMO. As I said though it fits roughly but it just doesn’t hold up to detailed scrutiny. The lake is the wrong shape for one but there’s other details in the hand drawn map that I can’t find. That said, this is the closest I’ve seen so far but with comments like ‘carbon copy’ I would like to find a much better match.


I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.

 
Posted : October 2, 2013 1:12 pm
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I don’t know diddley about the EAR/ONS. I’ve got a lot of questions….
How was this map drawn do we think? Traced over an original planning diagram or something? Copied from an aerial photo? (It’s a long way "up", that view.)
Since there was no Google earth, this guy spent an awful long time putting this together. Why produce it at all if you’ve got the original material to copy from? Just to put heavy black marks over that one "house" off-centre at the upper right, there? Do we know all the attack sites to view them from above in Google? I’m guessing we don’t, or you guys would have done.

On the sketch map, there are a lot of houses which look a generic shape (except for that big featured area in the top left, on the hill. A school? University? It’s a local landmark alright, that complex of buildings) – and the houses around that blacked-out one.
Which of us could draw the roof shapes of a place like that "school" without knowing it very very well or looking at a photo btw? (Which is where I came in.)

FWIW I don’t think you’ve matched the location, unless that section of 101 is new – and even then, it’s not all that close, really.
There’s a major road running across the top of the sketch (I believe) which might be a good one to look for.
Isn’t it interesting he bothered to put those "rivers" in, in so much detail? (If that IS a lake, and not the mother of all skate parks.)
Last: Which house would you be choosing to target, out of all those on the map? I certainly wouldn’t choose that black one. I’d be right up on the periphery of the area, out at the end of a road, I think. (Perhaps the punishment was in some way personal?)

 
Posted : October 2, 2013 1:50 pm
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