That article, while not directly claiming it was Officer Fouke that was the ‘Witness’ who saw someone running into the Presidio, imply’s that it was by stating that a witness saw a male run into the presidio, then giving a description straight afterwards of a male, approx 40 years of age, blonde crew cut, and a description of what he was wearing. The only person that we know of that gave this detailed description, was Don Fouke.

But that wasn’t Fouke’s description…gray pants, etc.

I think this was the youngsters’ description and why they later said the age was wrong in regards to the first composite. ?? They too mentioned the direction Paul’s killer was headed.

The young teen witnesses never gave a detailed description of what the man was wearing, as far as I know. And how can this description be given by the teen witnesses when it seems from the article that the person who gave this description also seems to be the person who saw this man dash into the presidio?

Considering that article has several goofs, I don’t think I’d take much to heart.

Here in the PD report there is another description. I find it odd they don’t mention Fouke, but it DOES say "reportees" gave description and mentions their vantage point.

They also don’t mention the 8 year old.

http://www.zodiackiller.com/StineReport1.html

Edit: The reportee was of course the 16 year old.

Considering that article has several goofs, I don’t think I’d take much to heart.

Here in the PD report there is another description. I find it odd they don’t mention Fouke, but it DOES say "reportees" gave description and mentions their vantage point.

They also don’t mention a 16 year old or 8 year old, but we know there were three kids. (see pg 1 of link)

http://www.zodiackiller.com/StineReport2.html

Yes I know the reportees gavea description, but that was, as far as we know, only of what the man looked like, and not what he was wearing. The article suggests that the person who saw the man dash into the presidio was the one that gave a description of what he was wearing. Their vantage point was elevated (from above) and from a distance of 50 ft away. The report also states that the reportee was on scene along with the two other witnesses that were _____, aged 14, and ______, aged 13. So we do know the ages for two of the three witnesses from the scene across the street.

The 8 year old is made reference too in a seperate FBI article.

The report just seems to go from Paul Stine’s log book and 1 fare logged, to a search of the JK Play area without giving any reference or reason as to why this area was of such interest and importance.

But, in the 2007 documentary ‘This is the Zodiac Speaking’, Fouke himself can be seen saying that he encountered Pelissetti and was told the suspect was white, whereupon Fouke states:

"We turned around to get to the Presidio. Our reasoning, well, my reasoning on that was turning down Maple would lead through to the Presidio and directly into Julius Kahn Playground, which had a lot of foliage. So we turned, and went looking for the alleged suspect in that area"

The only other 3rd party the article could be refering to when it states ‘Later reports indicate someone was seen running into the presidio…’ is the unknown Eight year old witnesses. It couldn’t be anyone else as no other reports are known to have been made, nor any other witnesses known to have come foreward. If it was the Eight year old, we will never know because his/her identity remains a mystery, and no details other than age are given.

Considering that article has several goofs, I don’t think I’d take much to heart.

Here in the PD report there is another description. I find it odd they don’t mention Fouke, but it DOES say "reportees" gave description and mentions their vantage point.

They also don’t mention the 8 year old.

http://www.zodiackiller.com/StineReport1.html

Edit: The reportee was of course the 16 year old.

Didn’t the 16 year old leave the house and go up the street following Z?

Edit: I found where I read about the Robbins kid going outside and following Z. Check the post from jdean in this thread viewtopic.php?f=30&t=402

Considering that article has several goofs, I don’t think I’d take much to heart.

Here in the PD report there is another description. I find it odd they don’t mention Fouke, but it DOES say "reportees" gave description and mentions their vantage point.

They also don’t mention the 8 year old.

http://www.zodiackiller.com/StineReport1.html

Edit: The reportee was of course the 16 year old.

Didn’t the 16 year old leave the house and go up the street following Z?

Edit: I found where I read about the Robbins kid going outside and following Z. Check the post from jdean in this thread viewtopic.php?f=30&t=402

Well according to Pelissetti’s written report, and his comments in the Documentary ‘This is the Zodiac Speaking’, he said as he arrived at the scene, quote "There were three children heading over to that car (Stines Cab) who weren’t too far away, but a good 15 or 16 feet away. I made the assumption that they were coming from the home on the corner, and I was correct. I herd them immediately back into that alcove (of the house)…. I didn’t know if the suspect was still there"

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The oldest witness went outside and stood on the corner (don’t know if it was the southeast or northeast corner) of Wash/Cherry and watched the killer as he walked north on Cherry.

Mike

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The oldest witness went outside and stood on the corner (don’t know if it was the southeast or northeast corner) of Wash/Cherry and watched the killer as he walked north on Cherry.

Mike

I don’t think the teen having seen Zodiac walking away down Cherry St, disappearing at Jackson and Cherry Intersection is being questioned, or is it? Well anyway, the teen from where he was positioned, could not obviously have witnessed Zodiac ‘Dash into the Presidio’ as one report claims one witness had done. I assume that it was Fouke the were referring to as the witness who saw Zodiac heading toward the presidio, but thats just an assumption due to not having any other witness that is named as being in a position to see Z turn left at Maple & Jackson and into the Presidio.
Ohh, thinking of it, there was one person mentioned…

Officer A Pelissetti: Got down to the next corner which was Maple (and Jackson). Looked to the left toward the Presidio, saw absolutely nothing as it was much darker there and I figured the chances of finding somebody was almost Nill. I turned to the Right, and I saw a man walking his dog. He was somewhat older than the description I had, a whole lot thinner, and had absolutely no blood on his clothes. I asked that Gentleman if he saw anybody walking in the area and he told me ‘No’".

Maybe that could have been the witness who saw Z dash into the park…If one even existed at all. He is certainlly located right in the correct area to see someone enter the Presidio. Maybe he saw a man dash into the Presidio after his brief encounter with Armond Pelissetti? We know that Zodiac still hadnn’t gone into the Presidio through Jackson & Maple at the time when Pelissetti encountered the witnesses because after Pelissetti turns and walks back up Jackson st and onto Cherry, it is at this point, probably about 60 – 90 seconds after Pelissetti saw the dog walker, that Officers Fouke & Zelms pull up on the white male adult who’s now seemingly appeared out of no-where the street where Pelissetti had just been prior. Pelissetti would have had to have passed Zodaic on Jackson st somewhere for this to happen, either that or Z was hid in one of the gardens, or behind a car, for example, untill he had observed Pelissetti walk bk up Jackson St and turn onto Cherry, then Zodiac emerged from hiding and walked right into the path of another responding unit, that of Fouke & Zelms.