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Tahoe27
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The scratch says "a suspect fitting the description of the Zodiac Killer was observed by Officer Fouke."
So the suspect did fit the description he was given by dispatch, except the BMA part, but this was ignored on account of one discrepancy despite everything else matching. And again BMA with blond hair and crew cut. Come on.

I think one has to take into consideration the scratch came in to play much later. By then, it did fit the description.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : December 15, 2015 8:37 pm
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Armond Pelissetti after updating to BMA, went up Cherry Street where he bumped into Fouke.
To walk Cherry is 1 minute, but Pelissetti was checking alcoves and parked cars, so let’s say 90 seconds.
It is now 90 seconds after the updated BMA description.
So where was Fouke and Zelms 90 seconds ago.
Traveling at 30 mph they would be well beyond Jackson and Maple when they supposedly received the updated version.
This portion Jackson Street (between Cherry +Maple) is approx 0.2 mile.
Traveling at 30 mph, Fouke and Zelms would travel 0.75 miles.
That is half a mile beyond Jackson/Maple when they received the updated description.
They didn’t receive it here, that is why it was received at Arguello as Fouke claimed in the 1989 documentary.
The timeline in the 1989 documentary makes sense.
The timeline in the 2007 documentary does not and could never have happened this way.

There was also no delay on Pelissetti’s updated version reaching Fouke.
If Armond Pelissetti as he claimed received the initial radio broadcast, traveled to the scene, parked up, ushered the kids, took the new description and checked Paul Stine this had to be approximately 2 minutes, then he got to the radio and updated everyone on the BMA. Donald Fouke claimed he got the updated description in Arguello of a BMA and it takes approximately 2 minutes to travel from the time he got the initial radio broadcast in Presidio/Washington to Arguello. So the timeline of both officers here is perfect. But if Fouke hadn’t gone to Arguello he would now be at the crime scene receiving the update and that didn’t happen.
This means there could have been little delay in the updated BMA description getting through to Donald Fouke, because Pelissetti made the amended radio call roughly 2 minutes after receiving the initial call, in this 2 minutes Fouke had traveled to Arguello where he got Pelissetti’s update.

 
Posted : December 16, 2015 4:04 pm
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OK, Zelms was killed on the street by some petty criminals. Tragically, especially with his 8-month-old son. But he was one witness to the Stine crime scene that never said anything, apparently. I’ve never heard his story. Did he say Foukes was entirely correct?

 
Posted : December 17, 2015 4:16 am
Tahoe27
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OK, Zelms was killed on the street by some petty criminals. Tragically, especially with his 8-month-old son. But he was one witness to the Stine crime scene that never said anything, apparently. I’ve never heard his story. Did he say Foukes was entirely correct?

All we have is a comment from his widow and she says her husband told her they did stop and talk to the man. Zelms allegedly carried around the wanted poster and always felt horrible Zodiac was in their grasp. Their is no official documentation of Zelms statement–at least none we have seen.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : December 17, 2015 4:24 am
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And then…Foukes’ partner, a rookie, was killed in action a few months later. Was he getting ready to tell the true story? Whatever it was? He was sent in first in a bust, right?

It didn’t quite go down like that. Many times Zelm’s death has come into question. This pretty much answers it all:

viewtopic.php?f=84&t=2413

OK, I read the newspaper article. Probably accurate but who really knows for sure what happened. Still could have been a hit somehow to silence Zelms. I’m just saying it’s possible. If he would have remained alive then his version of the story would have come out eventually.

 
Posted : December 23, 2015 2:57 am
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