For the new people here, go read the rules, and be respectful of those that have been here years longer than you.
Thanks. I’m new here. I read morf13’s welcome and it says this:
"I want everyone that becomes a member here to feel comfortable, and have a good time. At this forum, you won’t get talked down to, no matter what your level of knowledge regarding the case, and you will not have to worry about being banned for having your own opinion, or not agreeing with the powers that be."
Morf’s welcome is one thing, the rules are another.
Follow the rules and you won’t have a problem. You can’t run amok posting new threads that have already been discussed. See rule 2.
In the Z408, Zodiac makes reference to killing being "better than getting your rocks off with a girl."
That suggests that Zodiac had intimate relations with a female.
I think it suggests the opposite. For him to include that line makes me think he was trying to brag about himself, as usual. His bragging usually comes across as overstating or flat out lying. It reminds me of the Bates letter, when he talks about how her breast felt. Why include that unless you’d been wanting to touch her for a long time or to show you finally did regardless of her wishes? The only thing I can think of is he was bragging that he finally touched one. That would negate his rocks off comment, if I’m correct. Pair that with him almost always attacking couples, he clearly had an issue with women. If I had to guess, he said it so police wouldn’t look for a loner that was bad with women. He was hoping they’d believe he was with women and the exact opposite of what he actually was. Almost everything he wrote was to control the narrative and direct police in the wrong direction. I feel this is likely another example of that.
This is the impression I’ve always gotten from that statement, too. There’s a hint of bitterness and inferiority in the words. I could well imagine Zodiac hearing his co-workers talk about women at work, thinking something like "what losers, I kill people".
Yep. There’s an article suggesting Cheri was seeing a male librarian. Assuming Ross killed her, he’d known her, she likely rejected him and then had to deal with a coworker having her. That could explain why her murder was so personal and brutal compared to most of the others being shootings and not as physical.
For the new people here, go read the rules, and be respectful of those that have been here years longer than you.
Thanks. I’m new here. I read morf13’s welcome and it says this:
"I want everyone that becomes a member here to feel comfortable, and have a good time. At this forum, you won’t get talked down to, no matter what your level of knowledge regarding the case, and you will not have to worry about being banned for having your own opinion, or not agreeing with the powers that be."
Morf’s welcome is one thing, the rules are another.
Follow the rules and you won’t have a problem. You can’t run amok posting new threads that have already been discussed. See rule 2.
Thank you. I ran a search (the terms Ross + girlfriend) and didn’t find a previous thread with a focused discussion on Ross’ girlfriend/s or lack thereof. ==>> search.php?keywords=ross+girlfriend&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sr=posts&sk=t&sd=d&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search
Try looking for posts with the name Noel Jette. She was a female friend of Ross’s.
Thanks. I’m new here. I read morf13’s welcome and it says this:
New here myself.
Maybe start your threads in this section and ask for others to link you to threads discussing the topic.
Is it known if Ross had any romantic girlfriends his entire life?
If Ross ever had a steady relationship, his partner would be in a position to observe him closely and might have insights into his behavior and interests.
Conversely, if Ross never had a girlfriend his entire life, he likely had a high degree of sexual frustration. If Ross is Zodiac, perhaps that helps us understand the extreme violence he perpetrated on young couples. Perhaps Zodiac was envious of couples in relationships if Zodiac was unable have or maintain romantic female relationships of his own.
In the Z408, Zodiac makes reference to killing being "better than getting your rocks off with a girl."
That suggests that Zodiac had intimate relations with a female. If Ross is Zodiac, and he never had a girlfriend, what are chances that he frequented prostitutes to "get his rocks off?" If Ross was ever arrested for solicitation of prostitution, would police records still exist today — including mugshots, fingerprints and current weight?
I haven’t read through this post yet, but I don’t believe Ross ever had a girlfriend. There was a girl that he was in love with in Riverside CA between 1964 and 1966, according to two sources, who was close to Bonnie B. named Barbara Reynolds but we have never been able to locate her. From what I understand though, it was an unrequited kind of thing. From our sources Ross was never in love with Cheri Jo Bates.
His old girlfriend Noel Jette pictured here at Lowell Folk Festival with her daughter and her husband,Harvard Professor of Medicine, Alan Zaslavsky.
From, SmugMug website. Remember When? Lowell Folk Festival
Noel Jette works as a volunteer tour guide at the New England Aquarium. Her picture is online. They gave her an award and some recognition a couple of years ago.
It appears Sullivan’s girlfriend moved as far from California as she possibly could. Seeing the Aquarium hangs over Boston Harbor, she went about as far as humanly possible.
In the librarians letter to police she writes:
"I called police to ask about our suspect [Sullivan] and was told he had an alibi for that night. Our response is that his "alibi" would be too frightened not to agree with the alibi."
I have always taken this to mean a woman that he was with. I have also heard that he was living with a woman at the time, but that she refuses to talk about him. I’m curious to know more about what exactly his alibi was.
“Murder will out, this my conclusion.”
– Geoffrey Chaucer
Zodiac Death Machine very clearly points out the connection between Bates and Sheppard. This quickly leads us back to Riverside and to good old Ross Sullivan.
Zodiac Death Machine very clearly points out the connection between Bates and Sheppard. This quickly leads us back to Riverside and to good old Ross Sullivan.
Nope, it does not. Even if it leads back to Riverside, it doesn’t lead back to RS ‘automatically’. Instead, if trusting the Celebrity Cipher as authentic, RS is already ruled out.
Before posting such stuff it might be a better idea to read eg. historic articles about events that might have been related to Z.
QT
*ZODIACHRONOLOGY*
The theories are sound.
Zodiac Death Machine is pretty impressive to watch.
