How many people put equal distance between their punctuation marks and their words?? Zodiac did it all the time. Looks like Ross did too

That is a good catch

Thanks! I cant believe it took me as long as it did; i stare at Zodiac letters for hours almost on a daily basis. Or should I say:

Thanks ! I cant believe it took me as long as it did ; I stare at Zodiac letters for hours almost on a daily basis.

Lol

It’s definitely important to study the Zodiac letters (for hours) if you want to familiarize yourself with them.

And you will indeed not find any hyphen with what distances ever like the one above.

QT

It’s definitely important to study the Zodiac letters (for hours) if you want to familiarize yourself with them.

But you have to do it for howers, not hours.

The Stine letter, IMO, is the most telling when it comes to Z’s handwriting. You can see all the stop/start marks and just how much pressure is applied. Here is one example of a "d" from the Stine letter compared to Ross’ "d". You will see a good amount of the "d’s" in this letter are consistent in that they have the same exact pressure marks.

That’s very interesting.

the "pressure points" seem to line up almost exactly.

Someone had mentioned possibly comparing other writing in the Sullivan yearbook as a "c" sample to both Ross and Zodiac. So, I made a few suspect line ups for the "d’s", "w’s" and "e’s". I didnt even bother labeling the samples that were Ross’ because it seems blatantly obvious to me which ones are his. Everything in blue are letters/words from the Stine letter. Samples from yearbook are red.

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w

some of those Ws look like the weird Z in the zodiac letter.

Fantastic work Ham, this is really compelling stuff.

I’m not sure if this kind of thing has been discussed on the forum before, nor exactly how this software works, but from my limited understanding, could we load all of the known zodiac letters into something like this? http://www.cedartech.com/products_cedarfox.html

Then do a compare against different Ross, non-Ross samples and see what the results look like?

From what I understand cedarfox is built on the CEDAR tech that came out in the early 2000s that has been used for handwriting analysis in some court cases.

Fantastic work Ham, this is really compelling stuff.

I’m not sure if this kind of thing has been discussed on the forum before, nor exactly how this software works, but from my limited understanding, could we load all of the known zodiac letters into something like this? http://www.cedartech.com/products_cedarfox.html

Then do a compare against different Ross, non-Ross samples and see what the results look like?

From what I understand cedarfox is built on the CEDAR tech that came out in the early 2000s that has been used for handwriting analysis in some court cases.

I would say, hopefully.

It would also be interesting to see Manalli and the Unabomber and Gaikowski.

That is an unbelievable assertion that Ross was properly ruled out with prints by LE. The evidence would suggest the complete opposite. His name was not in the FBI files with all the other suspects whos prints were checked. Vallejo PD also has no record of Ross ever being a suspect.

The FBI do not automatically get details about every suspect checked out by other law enforcement agencies.

Ross Sullivan may not have been considered a viable suspect to Riverside PD, however after Napa County SD learned of the Bates murder, Sullivan was a name for them to check out. Did they access his prints? Or rule him out in some other way? All I know is I met with Undersheriff Dick Lonergan back in 1998, and according to him, all Riverside subjects had been cleared in the Berryessa attack through various ways.

Could they not simply DNA test the "4 Brown Caucasian head hairs" found on the body of Cheri jo that did not belong to her against the DNA of a relative of Sullivan and rule him in or out for good?