Good catch, that might make it easier to find him!

Might be easier to find Phillip. If he’s a student, might HE be in a UC SC yearbook?

Wouldn’t 3 people in that apartment be a bit crowded? Although, it would explain how they were able to afford it.

The reason we looked into the UCSC yearbooks was to find a later photo of Ross, closer to the Zodiac years.
Why look for a photo of his roommate?

I wasn’t thinking about a picture of Ross’ roommate. I was thinking more about trying to find the guy, and yearbooks might have clues in that regard. What class (age), activities, and so on. If Phillip and Terry were living with Ross, wouldn’t finding them and talking with them about Ross be of considerable interest? If so, first thing would be to track one of these guys down, and if Phillip was a student where his brother and Ross worked, it would seem that school would be the logical place to start looking, and the yearbook, which people here have access to, the logical first place.

Agreed, Marshall. It doesn’t say where Phillip was a student, but most likely it would be UCSC. On the youtube video posted early in this thread, it said one of the apartments is a 3 bedroom.

The issue, as far as Ross is concerned, is the likelihood of him travelling all the way from Santa Cruz to Vallejo to do the Z attacks.

Funny thing is, the guy who runs the site with the photos of the stationary, makes a good point that Z might have traveled to SF for other reasons and drop off letters he had pre-written. There might be a clue to this involving the stationary:

I personally find it probable that The Zodiac did not live in the immediate Bay Area. His first set of letters, 3 sets in number, all near-identical, and all sent to rival Bay Area newspapers, introduced himself as the murderer of the Vallejo victims, David Faraday, Betty Lou Jensen and Darlene Ferrin. He used Eaton marked paper. His next letter, a very significant one, was written on Woolworth’s “Fifth Avenue” paper. This is the letter in which he first introduced himself by the salutation “This is the Zodiac speaking.” It was written quickly in response to Vallejo Police Chief Jack Stiltz’s request in the newspapers for him to send more details in order to prove he was really the killer. He wrote the letter off the very day Stiltz’s request appeared in the papers.

After this he reverted back to Eaton marked paper. This makes that hasty letter a significant break in his pattern. The pattern suggests he did not live around the Bay Area but visited on business trips. He was not in a position to answer Stiltz’ request on his own stationary, so he bought paper at a local Woolworths. Robert Graysmith notes there was one not far from the San Francisco Chronicle.

BTW, Great thread everyone! Almost every post here is a nice contribution.

It seems that the roommate also worked in food service at the university.

I know what you mean about the common name, Morf. It could be Terry, Terrence or Terrance, too, and we don’t know how old he might be. Ross was a good 7 or 8 years older than the incoming freshmen in 1968 so the field is wide open as far as age is concerned.

Who are the "Cindy Kennedy" and "Phillip Kennedy" at "R512 2D ST APT 2"? What is the difference between R512 (Cindy’s/Phillip’s addresd) and H512 (Terry’s address)?

Possible email address for Cindy at http://www.sleptrainers.com/contact

Just sent her an email. Fingers crossed.

EDIT: Wrong person. This Cindy was not born until the late 60’s.

I found a Ted Kennedy, who is 71 years old, and once lived in Santa Cruz who is related to a Terry Kennedy.

Who owned the property? Do they have records? Dates of occupancy? Forwarding address?

Also, in the next year’s Polk guide … 1969,right? …. are the possible roommates still there? Or does the address have new occupants?

Who owned the property? Do they have records? Dates of occupancy? Forwarding address?

Here is an obit for the woman who owned the Hillcrest Apartments where Ross lived in 1968.

Also, in the next year’s Polk guide … 1969,right? …. are the possible roommates still there? Or does the address have new occupants?

Here is who lived at the 512 2nd Street address in the 1969 Santa Cruz Polk’s Directory. None of the Kennedy’s were in the 1969 directory.

Hmm I wonder where Ross lived in 1969 then.

The issue, as far as Ross is concerned, is the likelihood of him travelling all the way from Santa Cruz to Vallejo to do the Z attacks.

Funny thing is, the guy who runs the site with the photos of the stationary, makes a good point that Z might have traveled to SF for other reasons and drop off letters he had pre-written. There might be a clue to this involving the stationary:

I personally find it probable that The Zodiac did not live in the immediate Bay Area. His first set of letters, 3 sets in number, all near-identical, and all sent to rival Bay Area newspapers, introduced himself as the murderer of the Vallejo victims, David Faraday, Betty Lou Jensen and Darlene Ferrin. He used Eaton marked paper. His next letter, a very significant one, was written on Woolworth’s “Fifth Avenue” paper. This is the letter in which he first introduced himself by the salutation “This is the Zodiac speaking.” It was written quickly in response to Vallejo Police Chief Jack Stiltz’s request in the newspapers for him to send more details in order to prove he was really the killer. He wrote the letter off the very day Stiltz’s request appeared in the papers.

After this he reverted back to Eaton marked paper. This makes that hasty letter a significant break in his pattern. The pattern suggests he did not live around the Bay Area but visited on business trips. He was not in a position to answer Stiltz’ request on his own stationary, so he bought paper at a local Woolworths. Robert Graysmith notes there was one not far from the San Francisco Chronicle.

BTW, Great thread everyone! Almost every post here is a nice contribution.

Wait, the largest and busiest Woolworth’s was at Powell and Market. That’s only three-ish blocks from Geary and Mason.

and where was the YMCA in relation to those 2 spots?

and where was the YMCA in relation to those 2 spots?

Close as well. More east, but the blocks are short and if you want to shop, that would be the closest area. I’ve walked from that YMCA building to Geary & Mason, it’s quick and has quite a few old theaters along the way.

in one of these posts, didn’t Ross talk about his need to write to
keep his sanity when he lived at the Y? [maybe he didn’t do
enough writing? ] and with the Dad’s connection, it has to be.
we most likely will never find a San Fran address because when
he was there, he lived at the Y. and his occupation at the college
listed him as food server? or, more likely, dishwasher. just like on
his obituary. he could have had employment part-time as a
dishwasher at several places in the immediate area including
Vallejo. and they could also have been paying him cash, no record.
restaurants used to do that a lot. what more do we need? just one
person that knew him fairly well during late ’68 to ’70.
that said, hopefully his luck is about to run out!