Crazy thing is most of the top suspects don’t resemble the sketch much at all. ALA, Marshall, Kane and etc. Ross does look better then all them and will say that. Yet they was looked into by LE a lot. which tells me LE didn’t take the sketch that serious to be the tell all.
Yeah, all I can say is, if you think Earl Van Best looks more like Z than Ross, then you may be time for an eye exam. I am interested in Huffman too based on his background, initials(desktop),etc but he too doesn’t have a distinct widow’s peak hairline. Ross does. We can argue height, weight,age, but we can not argue distinct widow’s peak hairlines. Fouke was very specific, and Zodiac had it. (Van Best had male pattern baldness)POI’s and suspects in this case either have it or they don’t. Ross had it. Ross was in the RCC library, that also gives him a leg up on anybody else. If ANYBODY out there on this planet Earth with a Zodiac suspect ever linked them to that RCC library they would shout that connection to the Heavens, but as we know, there’s only one suspect ever linked to that library….Ross Sullivan, same guy with the Widow’s peak hairline
IMO, the sketch went get us into nowhere, since many men looked like that at the time if you look at yearbooks and photos of the time – I think it is not great evidence. Besides that, the weight and the height of Ross is very different from Zodiac’s description in Stine’s murder – I think the witnesses would not miss out on the distinctive weight (in the case of Ross, morbid obesity) or the height of a person. About Riverside CC: I don’t think Zodiac killed Bates, because of the Modus Operandi – the killer was very close to the victim and struggled phisically with her, which does not fit Zodiac’s MO(the use of a gun). But the desktop poem shows us that he was there at the time – in regards to "The Confession" and the "Had to Die" letters, my opinion is inconclusive in regards to "was he the author or not?" question. The "riverside activity" which Zodiac alluded to could be a reference to the desktop poem or to him being at Riverside, not the act of killing.
? Who did a psychic kid from Norway come up with? Don’t remember seeing that…
Never heard about that also. Could someone post some info about it?
IMO, the sketch went get us into nowhere
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The thing everyone needs to remember is that many of us who became interested in Ross as a suspect had very little to do with his look. REMEMBER THIS IS THE TIMELINE THREAD. And that timeline is what makes Ross a great suspect.
Most of us who zeroed in on Ross had worked the timeline of Zodiac out before hand. So all we needed to do was find a suspect who fit into the progression of the Z timeline.
To me, the one thing that would clear Ross as a suspect the most definitively, would be to prove the desktop poem is not Zodiac. Many people don’t think it is, sure, but there are many good reasons to believe Z started out in Riverside and was inside that library.
The top suspects, all failed to link to the library first, then most were laughed off by witnesses who saw Z.
With Ross, the resemblance to the sketch is just icing on the cake.
? Who did a psychic kid from Norway come up with? Don’t remember seeing that…
I don’t think Zodiac killed Bates, because of the Modus Operandi – the killer was very close to the victim and struggled phisically with her, which does not fit Zodiac’s MO(the use of a gun)
What about Shepard and Hartnell?
I don’t think Zodiac killed Bates, because of the Modus Operandi – the killer was very close to the victim and struggled phisically with her, which does not fit Zodiac’s MO(the use of a gun)
What about Shepard and Hartnell?
Remember that he brought a gun to restrain them on the spot – like the other cases, a gun is present. Also, it was a public park and was still sunny, so people could have heard gunshots and be curious enough to check out what was going on – I believe this is why he did not used the gun. He did not stabbed them to much to ensure that they were dead – I believe this shows inexperience at using a knife to kill. Also, if we assume Zodiac killed Bates, why there was no cutting of the throat at Lake Berryessa? If he did it before and the victim died, he would do it again – yet he did not. Which leads me to believe that he did not killed Bates, but could have been responsible for the letters and the desktop poem.
Ross knew Bates. She could’ve rejected his advances. That would explain how vicious he was in killing her and not the others (in comparison to her).
The car being disabled? Zodiac
Killing in a secluded area? Zodiac
Military boots? Zodiac
Taunting letters? Zodiac
I’m not sure why people try thinking it wasn’t him, especially after he gave them credit for stumbling upon it. The only difference between her and the other victims was the brutality. To me, that indicates it was personal and not “killing because it’s fun.”
Ross knew Bates. She could’ve rejected his advances. That would explain how vicious he was in killing her and not the others (in comparison to her).
The car being disabled? Zodiac
Killing in a secluded area? Zodiac
Military boots? Zodiac
Taunting letters? ZodiacI’m not sure why people try thinking it wasn’t him, especially after he gave them credit for stumbling upon it. The only difference between her and the other victims was the brutality. To me, that indicates it was personal and not “killing because it’s fun.”
The only time he disabled a car was with Kathleen Johns. If you think Zodiac was involved with that incident…he’s not Ross.
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
Wasn’t her first identification of her abductor the police sketch that looks an awful lot like Ross?
Wasn’t her first identification of her abductor the police sketch that looks an awful lot like Ross?
She saw the composite and thought that was the man…although the composite (to me) always looked like some frail old guy (j/k…he just has a skinny neck), it was her later description that would rule Ross out.
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
I could be wrong, but didn’t she change the description twice? From the sketch to Kane to someone else? Maybe eager police had a guy that they wanted to fit? I guess she could be making it all up as well.
I could be wrong, but didn’t she change the description twice? From the sketch to Kane to someone else? Maybe eager police had a guy that they wanted to fit? I guess she could be making it all up as well.
She described his physical appearance it great detail…and it’s recorded. Ross doesn’t fit the bill. If one chooses not to believe her, he could be a 5′ black man. 
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
If Ross was 300 pounds (6 Feet, 2 inches), I don’t consider that to be fat fat.
Here is link to a guy who is 6.2 and 290 pounds http://height-weight-chart.com/heightweight.html
You can mix and match here http://height-weight-chart.com/heightweight.html
My point was, she could be lying. Ross and Lawrence look nothing at all alike. To change that drastically is worrisome. Also, Ross hid his weight at 260 rather well. I’ve shown the picture of him squatting to several who have no idea who he is and they all guessed between 180-220. The closest guess was 40 pounds from his presumed weight. Yes, he would look overweight at 300, but his massive frame would keep him from looking obese.
My point was, she could be lying. Ross and Lawrence look nothing at all alike. To change that drastically is worrisome. Also, Ross hid his weight at 260 rather well. I’ve shown the picture of him squatting to several who have no idea who he is and they all guessed between 180-220. The closest guess was 40 pounds from his presumed weight. Yes, he would look overweight at 300, but his massive frame would keep him from looking obese.
Well, if you think she lied about it…anything goes.
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
