And then brought her back to the exact location she was taken from, only to kill her a few hundred yards from her car ?

Or brought her back directly to the alley to fulfill a fantasy that he would subsequently refer to. Which might have been why he chose Cheri in the first place, her proximity to the alley.

Something suspicious did happen, but the disabling of her vehicle could have happened closer to 10:30 to 10:40 just prior to the screams being reported. The disabling of her vehicle could have occurred in conjunction with her murder – such as during a heated argument at the vehicle – before she was forced down the alleyway. Hence why her vehicle was found in the state it was. The Confession letter has led people to believe her vehicle was disabled while she was absent from her vehicle, which doesn’t necessarily have to be the case. Although that possibility still remains.

I don’t follow. How would the killer disable her vehicle while she is present? Didn’t the killer have to do that before she arrived? If she is trying to start her car, how does he access the engine compartment?

Ok if you are using the Socratic method we must be entitled to your option ?

Go ahead.

Nice try.

Something suspicious did happen, but the disabling of her vehicle could have happened closer to 10:30 to 10:40 just prior to the screams being reported. The disabling of her vehicle could have occurred in conjunction with her murder – such as during a heated argument at the vehicle – before she was forced down the alleyway. Hence why her vehicle was found in the state it was. The Confession letter has led people to believe her vehicle was disabled while she was absent from her vehicle, which doesn’t necessarily have to be the case. Although that possibility still remains.

Or it could have happened at 6:15 or prior and nobody happened to notice.

Certainly, if we accept 4 people didn’t notice. But I could apply this to Presidio Heights.

Certainly, if we accept 4 people didn’t notice.

I easily accept it. Why would four workmen be fixated on watching a VW Beetle non-stop? Didn’t they have work to do? The motor could have been disabled in under a minute. The subsequent abduction could also have been quick.

Something suspicious did happen, but the disabling of her vehicle could have happened closer to 10:30 to 10:40 just prior to the screams being reported. The disabling of her vehicle could have occurred in conjunction with her murder – such as during a heated argument at the vehicle – before she was forced down the alleyway. Hence why her vehicle was found in the state it was. The Confession letter has led people to believe her vehicle was disabled while she was absent from her vehicle, which doesn’t necessarily have to be the case. Although that possibility still remains.

Are you saying that the killer disabled her vehicle AFTER he killed her? If so, why would he do that? Or that CJB was still at RCC around 10:30 p.m., and that she came back to her car around that time, with the vehicle having been disabled shortly before?

Forgive me for being obtuse, so her attacker took her at gun point from directly outside the Library, without being seen despite numerous people being in the area, and not knowing if he was seen by a witness. And then returns to the scene over 4 hours later to lead her down an alley, only to return to the street which the alley was off, where her very distinctive car car was parked on and would have been the location of her abduction ?

He could have flashed a badge and said "are you Cheri? Come with me, this is about your mother." Then put her in his car and zoomed away before she could process anything. It’s been done before. It didn’t need to appear suspicious to onlookers of which there might not have been any at a given minute.

He could have flashed a badge and said "are you Cheri? Come with me, this is about your mother." Then put her in his car and zoomed away before she could process anything. It’s been done before. It didn’t need to appear suspicious to onlookers of which there might not have been any at a given minute.

When was the car disabled ?

No, I’m saying that nobody can account for her whereabouts from 6:15 (or shortly thereafter) until 10:30 pm, when we suspect she was heard screaming in the alleyway. She could have left the library around 6:15pm with somebody she knew and left her vehicle outside the library, because the person she left with lived nearby. This person escorts her back to her vehicle shortly before 10:30pm and tries it on. She enters her vehicle and locks the doors, so the rejected other disables her vehicle via the engine to prevent her leaving. She is effectively trapped. She may have attempted to reason with said person through a rolled window, culminating in her exiting the vehicle to cool the situation and get the person to fix her engine. She is then forced down the alleyway. I am not saying this is actually what happened, but it’s possible the disabling was done in front of her and not as the Confession letter implied. What better way to shift the time of the attack forward 4 hours to give yourself an alibi.

Hypothetically could possibly it was an opportunistic attack. Campus is closed but a car which could be easily disabled is present. Attacker then disables car, waits in alley to see if owner returns. Offers help, which at that time of night they had no other option, leads them up the alley to a known parking parking area at the time. And then attacks.

People were using the alley to get from a parking area to the library until shortly after the library closed at 9PM. Obviously, no dead body was seen. According to the autopsy report, the earliest Cheri would have been dead was about 9:15 PM and the latest about 12:15 AM. If the scream was Cheri’s, and the time of the scream was accurate, the time of her attack was 10:30. She died almost instantly, within minutes.

I don’t believe Cheri stayed — for no reason — inside the library hours after she completed her only business there, unseen by friends or anyone else.

Either way, there’s significant missing time.

Yes, there is nothing to prove when the vehicle was disabled. The one thing we do know, is the 4 workmen reported nobody else floating around her vehicle during the critical period, other than Cheri Jo Bates. What we also know, is that there were no eyewitnesses at 10:30pm, the time we suspect she was murdered. So her vehicle could have been disabled at anytime over a 4 hour period.

The one thing we do know, is the 4 workmen reported nobody else floating around her vehicle during the critical period, other than Cheri Jo Bates.

Which is worthless because for all we know, they were mostly preoccupied doing their work.

Why were the windows down? You assume that it was cold.

It was described as being unseasonably warm that night. In fact one of my contacts was a little kid named Dana at the time who heard a scream that night because his bedroom window was open from the uncomfortable weather.

Very interesting ! Can you tell us anything more about Dana and where he lived in relation to the crime scene ?