Interesting, and TK has become my favorite suspect based on many things you and others have pointed out. But… at the time of the manifesto, wasn’t TK trying to distance himself from anything Z related? If that pattern you mention is not coincidence, that would imply TK was intentionally giving a clue that he was Z. Is that something he would have likely done?

When comparing TKs writings to those of Z, I think the thing to look for is unintentional commonalities, like the striking handwriting similarity, or the fact that the only time Z was contrite (and as far as I know, TK as well) was when admitting shortcomings in his bomb designs.

Z as Z may have left clues to his identity intentionally, but I do not believe TK as the noble, principled, crusading Unabomb would intentionally link himself to Z in any way, no matter how obscure. TK as Unabomb even admitted his previous crimes were to stay hidden, with evidence buried or destroyed.

As always, just my opinion of course.

Interesting, and TK has become my favorite suspect based on many things you and others have pointed out. But… at the time of the manifesto, wasn’t TK trying to distance himself from anything Z related? If that pattern you mention is not coincidence, that would imply TK was intentionally giving a clue that he was Z. Is that something he would have likely done?

The Zodiac crimes were all about killing young people, especially sexually promiscuous teenagers. TK admitted to bitterly resenting young couples for having relationships he seemed incapable of forging, calling them "pigs" etc. If TK was Zodiac then perhaps he would want to link Zodiac to the Unabomber crimes, even very subtly, to give his Zodiac days an air of ideological significance?

It reminds me of how the likes of ISIS kill innocents in the name of opposing Western "decadence". Lone wolf terrorists are often mentally disturbed and socially isolated young men – ideology supplies self-satisfied glory to their outbursts of violence.

Interesting, and TK has become my favorite suspect based on many things you and others have pointed out. But… at the time of the manifesto, wasn’t TK trying to distance himself from anything Z related? If that pattern you mention is not coincidence, that would imply TK was intentionally giving a clue that he was Z. Is that something he would have likely done?

When comparing TKs writings to those of Z, I think the thing to look for is unintentional commonalities, like the striking handwriting similarity, or the fact that the only time Z was contrite (and as far as I know, TK as well) was when admitting shortcomings in his bomb designs.

Z as Z may have left clues to his identity intentionally, but I do not believe TK as the noble, principled, crusading Unabomb would intentionally link himself to Z in any way, no matter how obscure. TK as Unabomb even admitted his previous crimes were to stay hidden, with evidence buried or destroyed.

As always, just my opinion of course.

IF Ted was the zodiac, it seems likely that the adamant denial of being "sick" and distancing himself from the zodiac crimes, was simply to give the manifesto merit.
As Ted has stated he wanted to propagate ideas, specifically ideas of revolution. Since people wrote the zodiac off as just a sick individual, the only way for his ideas to be taken seriously, is to go to the grave defending his sanity.
While I do think the theory of Ted whitewashing his past crimes fits perfectly with the goal of trying to establish credibility for his writings, I don’t know if he was capable of not including some type of clues that hint at his past.

Consider these three papers that were confiscated from his
cabin:

Backward masking, and other backward thoughts about music

Subliminal deception: pseudoscience on the college lecture circuit

If Ted did embed (although very obscurely) something linking him to the zodiac crimes, maybe the whole goal of the manifesto was to propagate ideas subliminally. There are some strange word repetitions in many of the paragraphs.
For example the word "revolution" is repeated four times in paragraph number four.
"power" is repeated 3 times in paragraph 33. Many of his writings contain weird repetition of words. Many of zodiac’s letters have repetitions of words with the letters of Ted’s name in the near vicinity. Maybe this type of hiding information in plain sight was something Ted was so used to doing that it became almost involuntary?

As Ted has stated he wanted to propagate ideas, specifically ideas of revolution. Since people wrote the zodiac off as just a sick individual, the only way for his ideas to be taken seriously, is to go to the grave defending his sanity.

Zodiac was clearly not apolitical. He enjoyed toying with "pig" cops and made reference to the Symbionese Liberation Army, a militant leftist group responsible for murders and bank robberies.

This ties in nicely with TK’s environmentalist extremism. (I should impartially note that unlike TK, Richard Gaikowski was actually involved in the New Left and hippie scenes).

Interesting, and TK has become my favorite suspect based on many things you and others have pointed out. But… at the time of the manifesto, wasn’t TK trying to distance himself from anything Z related? If that pattern you mention is not coincidence, that would imply TK was intentionally giving a clue that he was Z. Is that something he would have likely done?

It may not be that he was creating clews. It may be that he was using the same basic encryption, or one derived from one used for the last 18 characters of the 408. Given TK’s expertise, using pi would be natural.

Overall, this is a pretty far out idea, but worth exploring. The EBE/979 starting at the 12th decimal is pretty damn intriguing. Some kind of duodecimal system would make sense to someone into as into circles as TK was.

Interesting, and TK has become my favorite suspect based on many things you and others have pointed out. But… at the time of the manifesto, wasn’t TK trying to distance himself from anything Z related? If that pattern you mention is not coincidence, that would imply TK was intentionally giving a clue that he was Z. Is that something he would have likely done?

It may not be that he was creating clews. It may be that he was using the same basic encryption, or one derived from one used for the last 18 characters of the 408. Given TK’s expertise, using pi would be natural.

Overall, this is a pretty far out idea, but worth exploring. The EBE/979 starting at the 12th decimal is pretty damn intriguing. Some kind of duodecimal system would make sense to someone into as into circles as TK was.

Interesting observation TM, maybe it was something simple based around musical notes. Something like the Circle of fifths comes to mind.

Stuff like this is just interesting…the stuff some of you guys and ladies come up with is just interesting

Here’s another interesting coincidence. I posted this on another website; not sure if it has been discovered before.
There’s so much on these message boards that I have not yet read.
There has been much speculation as to where the killer’s name "The Zodiac’ came from.
Here’s another possibility:

THEODORE KACZYNSKI
THE OD ACZ I

Since The Zodiac liked to play with ciphers and word games, this struck me as very curious.
It is difficult to extract this from many names.
I would guess that few if any of the other known suspects would be able to find this within their names.

Cheers…Mick

The ABCBA word pattern is one of plenty but could still be common. NSA’s document ‘Military Cryptanalysis’ of 1952 dealt with such patterns and gave the following list for this word pattern:

completely
awkward
capacity
pacific
specific
hindered
divide
garage
citation
level
prefer
refer
preservation
reservation
taxation
hostility
utility
activity

The bold words could be a match. The others do not fit. Nice approach, btw, as it could be a key instead of a filler..

"evefreelevelsstele"

is the maximum I can make out of this.

QT

QT, that assumes one word, right?

It could be something like tan a turtle.

Although why anyone would want to tan a turtle, I cannot figure.