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Possible Zodiac Link To Or Influence On EAR/ONS/GSK?

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AK Wilks
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That is interesting.

Earlier someone asked how Ted could provide proof of an alibi for Zodiac attacks and mailings as asked of him by Doug Oswell and another writer. I replied by saying he could provide class attendance sheets, paycheck stubs, witness statements or mailed letters. Now later on, post summer of 1969, when Ted quits being a professor and seldom worked any regular jobs, it would get harder. I don’t consider his diary entries as proof as to where he was on any given date. For several reasons. When Ted would go into town, he would sometimes ask what the date was. Living in a cabin in the woods I think he did not usually keep track of dates very tightly. So I would question his diary journal entries as to how accurate any given date was. And more importantly he may have lied in the journal and in his letters. Once he recorded going out west to look for land when in fact he was sending a Unabomber bomb. So if he was the EAR/ONS, he may well have written other fake entries showing him in Montana on or near EAR/ONS attack dates when in fact he was in California.

In the coded part of his journal that records all Unabomber crimes, Ted mentions other unspecified crimes and he says he notes and evidence regarding them have been buried or burned as revelation could be "dangerous, embarrassing, or just very pad PR at this time."

Based on definitive evidence, such as confirmed sightings or conversations with neighbors or store clerks, family visits or mailings, etc., I could find nothing to rule him out. When I gave info to the police, I can assume they also found nothing to definitively give him an alibi for any key DNA linked EAR/ONS attacks, as they eventually asked the FBI and the Supermax prison for Ted’s DNA.

Now there was one moment when I almost dropped all consideration of Ted for EAR/ONS. There was an apparent employment record for Ted being in Illinois at a job site within 24 hours of an EAR attack in California. While it would be technically possible for Ted to make it to CA within 24 hours from Illinois, by plane or even train, I considered it very impractical. I was prepared to back burner and all but drop any serious consideration of Ted for these crimes and return to what was always my main focus, the Zodiac case and to some extent Tylenol. But ultimately I did not.

First the EAR attack in question was not a DNA linked attack. meaning we do not know for sure that it was EAR/ONS who did it. Aside from theories about an EAR A and an EAR B, there were some definite copycat attacks, and there were other ski masked and home invasion rapists in North Cal at the time. But more importantly, the company in question was run by Ted’s brother David. So Ted had access to the office and could have faked the record. I provided this info to the police, and as I said, they still sought to get Ted’s DNA for comparison to the EAR/ONS DNA.

The FBI established that for almost every single Unabomber crime or mailing, the majority of which were in North Cal, SF or Sacramento , they had hotel records for a hotel in Helena that Ted would stay at within 30 days of going out of state to do these CA crimes and mailings, or he would stay there with 30 days of returning from being out of state.

There are also hotel stays, indicative of out of state trips to CA, with no matching Unabomber crimes, BUT EACH IS WITHIN 30 DAYS OF A ONS CRIME, INCLUDING CRUZ IN 1986.

I have read the statements of Sacramento hotel clerks who say Ted stayed there but the FBI doesn’t reveal the dates.

The FBI states that he would usually stay at this hotel in Helena, MT within a week to 30 days either before or after a crime. In other words, on his way out of state (most often to California) he would stay here, or on his way back. He sometimes left one day before paid checkout time. In regards to the four dates I can find in the relevant time period, EACH ONE COINCIDES WITH AN ORANGE COUNTY MURDER TAKING PLACE WITHIN ONE WEEK TO THIRTY DAYS OF HIS STAY. Scott is NOT a DNA linked confirmed ONS murder but is a possible ONS murder.

Paid Hotel Stay ———-Orange County Murder

April 14 – 18, 1980 ———- Lyman and Charlene Smith, March 13, 1980

May 12 – 14, 1980 ———-Dorothy Jane Scott, May 27, 1980

August 13 – 15, 1980 ———- Keith and Patrice Harrington, August 19, 1980

April 7 – 9, 1986 ——————————Janelle Lisa Cruz, May 4, 1986

May 28-30, 1986

Other than a June 10, 1980 mail bombing in Chicago, there were no other bombings or mailings in 1980 or 1986.

Thus, it is unknown why Kaczynski stayed in the hotel for these times above, something he generally only did when going to or coming back from an out of state crime. Therefor it is very interesting indeed that these hotel stays, indicitive of out of state trips to CA, match ONS murders.

There was also a pipe bomb placed behind a computer store in Orange County CA – the EXACT MO OF KACZYNSKI – the summer of the Cruz murder and a few miles away from where she was killed in Orange County.

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Posted : October 21, 2014 11:51 pm
Darla Jones
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To be clear, Dorothy Jane Scott is not a DNA link ONS murder.

However, this information about the hotel is very important. I wouldn’t count him out based on this entry either. I personally think that EARA and EARB is a correct theory. There are numerous reasons to believe that EAR had and accomplice. Also, only three rapes have been DNA linked and they were are all in Contra Costa county. Almost all of the ONS crimes have been linked through DNA.

I know (and I shouldn’t) that ONS was probably damaged in a permanent way after his attack on Janelle. There is some physical evidence that shows this. IF TJK is ONS, this could explain why 1986 was the last ONS style attack (no way to rape anymore… if you get my meaning), even though he is still alive. It could also explain the sudden turn to bombing as his main MO for attack.

 
Posted : October 22, 2014 2:25 am
Darla Jones
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Here is a look at the zodiac bomb letter and the EAR map side by side. There are some similarities, especially the squiggly lines.

 
Posted : October 22, 2014 2:31 am
Darla Jones
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Here is a timeline of the EAR/ONS/GSK crimes

East Area Rapist Crimes 6/18/76 to 10/1/79
DATE
LOCATION
DESCRIPTION
#1
6/18/76 Fri
4:00am Rancho Cordova, CA
Woman alone

#2
7/17/76 Sat
2:00am Del Dayo. Carmichael, CA
Teenage girl

#3
8/29/76 Sun
3:20am Rancho Cordova, CA
Teenage girl (escaped)

#4
9/04/76 Sat
11:30pm Citrus Heights, CA
Woman alone

#5
10/5/76 Tue
6:45am Citrus Heights, CA
Woman

#6
10/9/76 Sat
4:30am Rancho Cordova, CA
Woman alone

#7
10/18/76 Mon
2:30am Del Dayo, Carmichael, CA
Woman

#8
10/18/76 Mon
11:00pm Rancho Cordova, CA
Woman alone

News Blackout lifted. 1st News article on rapist appears in 11/4/76 Sacto Bee.
#9
11/10/76 Wed
7:30pm near Greenback Ln, Citrus Heights, CA
Woman alone

#10
12/18/76 Sat
11:30pm Carmichael, CA
Woman alone

#11
1/19/77 Wed
1:00am Glenbrook/College Greens
Woman alone

#12
1/24/77 Mon
3:00am Primrose Dr., Citrus Heights, CA
Woman alone

#13
2/7/77 Mon
6:45am Crestview Drive & Madison Ave., Citrus Heights, CA
Woman

**
2/16/77 Wed
10:30pm Ripon Court , Glenbrook/College Greens, East Sacramento, CA 18 yr old Youth shot in stomach after confronting and chasing prowler.
#14
3/8/77 Tue
Approx. 4:00am Robertson & Whitney Aves., Sacto, CA
Woman alone

#15
3/18/77 Fri
10:45pm Rancho Cordova
Teenage girl

#16
4/2/77 Sat
Madison & Main Ave.
Couple (added on 5/15/77)

#17
4/15/77 Fri
2:30am Madison & Manzanita Aves. , Crestview Area, Sacto, CA
Couple

#18
5/3/77 Tue
3:00am Glenbrook/College Greens
Couple

#19
5/5/77 Thu
12:15am Orangevale, CA
Couple accosted outside home

#20
5/14/77 Sun
3:45am Greenback Ln & Birdcage St., Citrus Heights, CA
Couple

#21
5/17/77 Tue
1:30am Sand Bar Circle,
Del Dayo, Carmichael, CA
Couple

5/17/77 EAR threatens to kill next two victims. Composite Sketch & Profile released.
Intense police & CBer’s patrol apparently force EAR out of the East Area.

#22
5/28/77 Sat
Approx. 1:00am Fourth Parkway, South Area, Sacto, CA
Couple

#22 Attack was blocks away from local dentist who organized CBer Patrols
& posted additional $10,000 reward.

#23
9/6/77 Tue
Lincoln Village West, North Stockton, CA
Couple

First Stockton, CA attack after apparently being dormant all summer.
#24
10/1/77 Sat
1:30am La Riveria & Toulomne Dr, RC, CA
Couple

#25
10/21/77 Fri
3:00am Gold Run Ave., Elkhorn Blvd., Diablo Drive, Foothill Farms, Antelope, CA
Couple (forced entry) mentioned in 3/25/93 Bee article

#26
10/29/77 Sat
1:45am Mission & Eastern Ave., Sacto, CA
Couple

#27
11/10/77 Thu
3:00am La Riviera Dr. near Watt Ave.
Teenage girl molested

#28
12/2/77 Fri
11:30pm Lobrett & Revelstok Dr. Foothill Farms, CA Aborted EAR attack. Woman alone with child. Husband not home.
**
12/12/77
La Riviera Dr. & Watt Ave. EAR suspect wearing ski mask spotted riding bicycle on Watt Ave. Bridge by Sheriff Deputies. Suspect eludes capture. Bicycle reported stolen from Redding, CA left behind.

#29
1/28/78 Sat
10:15pm Winding Way, E. of Walnut Ave.(near American River College.)
Teenage girl #1

#30
1/28/78 Sat
Same as above
Teenage girl #2 (sister to above)


2/2/78 Thu
9:00PM 10165 La Alegria and La Gloria Dr., Rancho Cordova, CA Maggiores murdered.

2/16/78 Thu

Composite Sketches released
re: Maggiore murder suspects

#31

3/18/78 Fri
1:05am Parkwoods, Stockton
Couple

(48)
4/6/78
Rancho Cordova
Woman

2nd Attack in Stockton.
#3#322
4/14/78 Fri
10:00pm Piedmont Drive, Seamas & Riverside Aves. South Sacramento, CAounted CouTeenage Girle?
Last known EAR attack in the Sacramento Area
***
4/16/78 Sun
Enhanced Composite Sketch Released
re: Maggiore Murder Suspects

#33
6/5/78 Mon
3:50am N.E. Modesto, CA A mile from other Modesto Location
Couple

#34
6/7/78 Wed
4:00am Davis, CA Apartment, N. side UCD
Woman alone

#35
6/23/78 Fri
1:30am North East Modesto
Couple

#36
6/24/78 Sat
3:00am Davis
Couple

6/28/78 Wed
EAR Copycat Attack

#37
7/6/78 Thur
3:00am Westwood Div., Davis, CA
Woman alone (two sons present)

#38
10/7/78 Sat
2:30am Concord, CA
Couple

#39
10/13/78 Fri
4:30am Ygnacio Valley, Concord, CA
Couple

#40
10/28/78 Sat
4:30am San Ramon, CA
Couple

#41
11/4/78
3:30am San Jose, CA
Woman

#42
12/2/78
4:30am San Jose, CA
Couple

#43
12/9/78 Sat
2:00am Danville, CA
Woman

#44
4/5/79 Thur
1:00am Fremont, CA
Couple

#45
6/2/79
Walnut Creek
Teenage girl

#46
6/11/79 Mon
4:00am Danville, CA (two blocks from #43)
Couple

#47
6/25/79 Mon
Walnut Creek
Teenage girl

#48
(Occured 4/6/78)
Rancho Cordova
Woman

#49
7/5/79
3:45am Danville, CA
Couple (Aborted attack)

#50
10/1/79 Mon
Queen Ann Lane, Goleta, Santa Barbara County, CA
Couple (escaped)

Original Night Stalker Crimes 1979 to 1986
DATE
LOCATION DESCRIPTION

#1
12/30/79 Sun
Avenida Pequena Ave., Goleta, Santa Barbara County, CA
Alexandria Manning (murdered)

#2
12/30/79 Sun
(Same Location as above)
Dr. Robert Offerman (murdered)

#3
3/13/80 Thu
High Point Drive, Ventura County, CA
Charlene Smith (raped, murdered)

#4
3/13/80 Thu
(Same Location as above)
Lyman Smith (murdered)

#5
8/19/80 Tue
Cockleshell Dr., Dana Point, CA
Patrice Harrington (raped, murdered)

#6
8/19/80 Tue
(Same Location as above)
Keith Harrington (murdered)

#7
2/5/81 Thu
35 Columbus, Irvine, Orange County CA
Manuela Witthuhn (raped, murdered)

#8
7/27/81 Sun
Toltec Way, Goleta, Santa Barbara County, CA (half-mile from prev. Goleta site.)
Cheri Domingo (murdered)

#9
7/27/81 Sun
(Same Location as above)
Gregory Sanchez (murdered)

#10
5/4/86 Sun
13 Encina, Northwood Area, Irvine, Orange County, CA (mile from Witthun)
Janelle Lisa Cruz (raped, murdered)

 
Posted : October 23, 2014 2:16 am
Darla Jones
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From the Alston Chase
"Apparently caught between acrimony at home and rejection at school, Kaczynski countered with activity. He joined the chess, biology, German, and mathematics clubs. He collected coins. He read ravenously and widely, excelling in every field from drama and history to biology and mathematics. According to an account in The Washington Post, he explored the music of Bach, Vivaldi, and Gabrieli, studied music theory, and wrote musical compositions for a family trio — David on the trumpet, Turk at the piano, and himself on the trombone. He played duets with Oberto."

Many people on the ONS discussion board believe that he was a coin collector. He took, on several occasions silver dollars, unique coins. and pennies.

 
Posted : October 23, 2014 9:36 am
Darla Jones
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In the very first EAR attack the hood was described as having "two eye holes and a seam down the front". That sounds homemade to me.

From ONS Proboards:
"Attack #1 – June 18, 1976 in Rancho Cordova (95670), approximately 4:00 am.
Victim – "Carey Frank" – 23 years old
Physical Description:
White Male – 20-25 years old
About 5’9"
Rapist wasn’t a large man; perhaps 165 lbs.
Muscular legs with dark hair on them
Very small penis
*Eye color – Hazel; Hair – Brown

Clothing & Accessories Description:
Half-naked
Dark T-shirt
Dirty white or gray mask with two eye holes and a seam down the front
Gloves
Knife

*Victim heard low, whispered voices in another room – including "I told you to shut up!" in a louder whisper.

 
Posted : October 24, 2014 9:43 pm
Darla Jones
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Thanks for posting the psych report and the other information. As Mr. Spock would say, "fascinating".

Excitement’s Crave
All those mortal’s surviving birth
Upon facing maturity,
Take inventory of their worth
To prevailing society.

Choosing values becomes a task;
Oneself must seek satisfaction.
The selected route will unmask
Character when plans take action

Accepting some work to perform
At fixed pay, but promise for more,
Is a recognized social norm,
As is decorum, seeking lore.

Achieving while others lifting
Should be cause for deserving fame.
Leisure tempts excitement seeking,
What’s right and expected seems tame.

"Jessie James" has been seen by all,
And "Son of Sam" has an author.
Others now feel temptations call.
Sacramento should make an offer.

To make a movie of my life
That will pay for my planned exile.
Just now I’d like to add the wife
Of a Mafia lord to my file.

Your East Area Rapist
And deserving pest
See you in the press or on T.V.

I saved these images from AK sometime last year. (Do you remember where you got the screen shot from?) I noticed that in EC that, more than once, the typist missed a letter, or the key did not strike all the way. That has happened in this note from Zodiac as well. Also, in both notes where the missing letter is, EAR goes to the trouble to fill it in by hand. So does Zodiac.

 
Posted : October 28, 2014 9:37 am
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Very interesting! The person who has this typewriter should examine all the keys to see if any match up with the ones that are seemingly defective.

 
Posted : October 28, 2014 9:47 pm
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AK,

I enjoy your posts immensely as you don’t restrict your out of the box thinking and you avoid assuming that a MO or signature can’t be altered.

What do we know about Kazinski’s athletic prowess? For Ear ONS this appears to be something of value as it has been suggested that EAR ONS was able to move quite well specifically speaking he had appeared to have better than average athletic ability.

The other question is the widow’s peak. Kazcinski has one and as one ages it tends to become less pronounced.
Was recognized to have a widow’s peak?

Another issue would be the link to Santa Barbara, Goleta, Sacramento and Visalia.
Based on the EAR crimes the perp would have to have fairly detailed knowledge of Sacramento and the Santa Barbara areas.

I know I’m a bit all over the map here but I’m just streaming a few thoughts.

 
Posted : November 20, 2014 10:16 pm
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The typewriter would prove critical to solving these imo if it could be located! The keys could be examined forensically to determine if these letters were typed on it.

Typing was much more difficult in those days. Most students learned to type on manual typewriters and used carbon paper to make copies. Typos were a real pain to correct, especially before "whiteout" was invented.

The keys on older machines would often stick or otherwise not strike the platen properly.

From what I see here, I think defective keys were responsible or dirty keys and/or typos/all of the above.

I often corrected things by writing in or over a typed letter after having to erase a typo, especially if carbon paper was being used as it was almost impossible to make a perfect correction as the sheets of paper would not line up exactly the same way after erasures or removal and re-insertion of the sheets had been made.

Writing in and over typed letters was pretty common, especially for informal documents.

 
Posted : November 21, 2014 12:17 am
AK Wilks
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June4, 1963………………………………December 20, 1968
Domingos & Edwards……………………..Faraday & Jensen
Santa Barbara, California………………..Vajello, California
Gun 6 Right Twists………………………Gun 6 Right Twists
JC Higgins Pistol………………………..JC Higgins Pistol
.22 Super X Ammo……………………..22 Super X Ammo

June 4 1963………………………………………………………………………………………………………..December 20 1968
Robert Domingos & Linda Edwards…………………………………………………………………………………Faraday & Jensen
Santa Barbara, California………………………………………………………………………………………….Vajello, California
Gun 6 Right Twists…………………………………………………………………………………………………Gun 6 Right Twists
JC Higgins Pistol…………………………………………………………………………………………………..JC Higgins Pistol
.22 Super X Ammo…………………………………………………………………………………………………22 Super X Ammo

AK,

I enjoy your posts immensely as you don’t restrict your out of the box thinking and you avoid assuming that a MO or signature can’t be altered.

What do we know about Kazinski’s athletic prowess? For Ear ONS this appears to be something of value as it has been suggested that EAR ONS was able to move quite well specifically speaking he had appeared to have better than average athletic ability.

The other question is the widow’s peak. Kazcinski has one and as one ages it tends to become less pronounced.
Was recognized to have a widow’s peak?

Another issue would be the link to Santa Barbara, Goleta, Sacramento and Visalia.
Based on the EAR crimes the perp would have to have fairly detailed knowledge of Sacramento and the Santa Barbara areas.

I know I’m a bit all over the map here but I’m just streaming a few thoughts.

Thanks very much for the compliment! I appreciate it. I try to keep an open mind on serial killers. CCCSD Crime Lab Chief Paul Holes once told me that often profilers get "too rigid" in their profiles and said that may be why some dismiss Ted the bomber as Zodiac the up close and personal killer. He said the most important thing is a desire to kill strangers and write to the media about it, which both Ted and Z shared. Also, Z varied his MO. Probably kills a single woman (bates, then attacks three male-female couples, then kills a lone male, then perhaps attacks lone females (Johns, Lass, Hakari, etc), then makes sniper threats, then makes terroristic bomb threats against a whole city. Ted mainly killed by bombs yes, but he also shot a man at a mine with a rifle, shot, stabbed and poisoned dogs, did armed burglaries and vandalized trucks.

Ted was very athletic and fit, he had abody like a runner or swimmer, which is what was said about EAR/ONS. Ted survived for weeks in the wild, hiking and hunting, as EAR/ONS was thought to do.

I think Ted had a small widows peak, and in general he matches very well the sketches of the VR and Maggiore Killer, who were probably the same, and probably became EAR/ONS.

Ted knew Sacramento very well. The FBI thought the Unabomber lived in Sacramento or SF. Ted stayed at a hotel in Sacramento and the clerks knew him well. He went to a Sacramento bookstore so often they nicknamed him Einstein for his messy hair and intellectual interests. If the Zodiac started as the Santa Barbara killer in 63, that is a direct tie to that area around Goleta.

Below are sketches of the 1963 Santa Barbara beach murders suspect "Sandy" and pictures of the young Ted Kaczynski, followed by pictures of Ted Kaczynski and suspect sketches in the Zodiac and EAR/ONS cases.


Comparison of VR sketch and two pics of Ted Kaczynski 1970’s.

Comparison of side view of VR sketch and side view of Ted Kaczynski

Cap I think you are right about the typewriter let me put my thinking cap on about the problem.

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Posted : November 21, 2014 2:54 am
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AK,

We know that Kaczynski graduated from Harvard in 1962 and he enrolled at Michigan thereafter (What exact period was he at U of M?) . We also know he was at UC Berkeley in 1967.

What would be Kaczynski’s reason to be in Santa Barbara to Santa Barbara in 1963 for Domingos and Edwards?

The Domingos/Edwards double murder occurred on 6/4/63 and the Michigan classes ended on May 25 but exams were from 5/27/63 to 6/6/63. Was Ted K at U of M in the 1962-1963 school year? Did he take 2nd semester exams in 1963? Certainly possible for him to finish before 6/6/14 but even still there wouldn’t be much time for him to get to Santa Barbara, know enough to get around and find remote spots, especially if he had never been there before. Certainly a grad schedule could be different.

http://books.google.com/books?id=i5WfAA … 63&f=false

As for Sacramento we see two of his Unabomber bombings (1985 and 1995) including his last one that took place in Sacramento. his shows ties to the area but again when and how does he have ties to Sacramento prior to his first bombing?

There are reasonable gaps between EAR ONS and the dates his bombs went off so one doesn’t rule out there other. However it does beg the question of how he got around to those sites (Illinois in May of 1978 and 79 and California in June of 1978 and 79).

 
Posted : November 21, 2014 3:34 am
AK Wilks
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No ties to SB that we know of and no evidence to show he was or was not there. But as you say it was summer vacation and Ted sometimes skipped some or most classes but then turned in papers that got him an A and won awards.

Ted owned cars including a white Pontiac and a 50’s era pickup truck which matches EAR. He also borrowed family cars, could have rented cars and he frequently used buses and also hiked great distances and lived and slept in the woods including North Cal woods.

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Posted : November 21, 2014 3:52 am
AK Wilks
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Bumped for EndOfTheWorld.

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Posted : January 5, 2016 8:39 am
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No, speaking for myself I can’t see it. TK wasn’t into rape or ransacking, that we know of. After he bought the shack in Montana, he was either there most of the time or he wasn’t. That should be ascertainable. He knew people in Montana, like the librarian and some neighbors. If he was EAR he was living in CA, except for the summers. Committing 50 rapes is a lot different than just taking a few trips to mail stuff. It’s not known who wrote "Excitement’s Crave".

 
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