You have actually gotten a response from him? What did you ask him? I never outright mentioned zodiac in the few letters I sent him but I guess the symbolism got the message across enough for him to ignore me.

Yes. I just asked about some things that he likes, such as books and the outdoors. Also told him some personal details. He was quite friendly and has asked some questions.

What exactly did you try to ask about? I think he is pretty picky when you ask about his crimes or psychological condition.

Very, very interesting second question, Jelberg. I think TK wanted to take a small part in the annihilation of humanity, like the super villain at the end of an action movie, who makes a speech to the hero, explaining how and why he/she is insignificant while trying to crush his/her bones with a super villain machine he created himself ^^

Very, very interesting second question, Jelberg. I think TK wanted to take a small part in the annihilation of humanity, like the super villain at the end of an action movie, who makes a speech to the hero, explaining how and why he/she is insignificant while trying to crush his/her bones with a super villain machine he created himself ^^

Idk about all of humanity, it seems Kaczynski sought to kill "big shots" that he considered enemies of his belief system or affected his personal world (like the airplanes and chainsaws a near his property that he believed caused his heart palpitations). He stated after planting one of his bombs that he was worried a humanities student would pick it up. But, when he found out an aspiring astronaut did he was happy. I think the selective empathy is a trait of narcissism. He certainly wants to be remembered as some sort of antihero.

Also, if you guys have any questions for me about Kaczynski, feel free to ask. I know someone who has spoken with Kaczynski for a longer time than me and I can pass on any questions to them as well.

What would be cool, although risky to your ongoing communications, would be a scenario like this:

Get with the crypto guys like Jarlve and Smokie and others, and work out a plan. First, have a discussion on codes that is general, as this is something that TK is interested in, and would give him something to think about in his ample free time. Gradually make the conversation more detailed, the sample codes and methods more complex. And then, eventually, get to the point where you send TK a code to solve, which is the 340, but you replace all the original 340 symbols with some other characters, so it doesn’t look like the 340.

If the correspondence suddenly stops, it will mean TK recognizes that code. If TK is not Z, maybe he can solve the 340…….

Also, if you guys have any questions for me about Kaczynski, feel free to ask. I know someone who has spoken with Kaczynski for a longer time than me and I can pass on any questions to them as well.

What would be cool, although risky to your ongoing communications, would be a scenario like this:

Get with the crypto guys like Jarlve and Smokie and others, and work out a plan. First, have a discussion on codes that is general, as this is something that TK is interested in, and would give him something to think about in his ample free time. Gradually make the conversation more detailed, the sample codes and methods more complex. And then, eventually, get to the point where you send TK a code to solve, which is the 340, but you replace all the original 340 symbols with some other characters, so it doesn’t look like the 340.

If the correspondence suddenly stops, it will mean TK recognizes that code. If TK is not Z, maybe he can solve the 340…….

That is a really awesome idea. Not sure if the Admax would allow it though, they have some rules on codes and symbols. Maybe to cut out the risk I’ll get a friend to send it and see what happens.

Also, if you guys have any questions for me about Kaczynski, feel free to ask. I know someone who has spoken with Kaczynski for a longer time than me and I can pass on any questions to them as well.

What would be cool, although risky to your ongoing communications, would be a scenario like this:

Get with the crypto guys like Jarlve and Smokie and others, and work out a plan. First, have a discussion on codes that is general, as this is something that TK is interested in, and would give him something to think about in his ample free time. Gradually make the conversation more detailed, the sample codes and methods more complex. And then, eventually, get to the point where you send TK a code to solve, which is the 340, but you replace all the original 340 symbols with some other characters, so it doesn’t look like the 340.

If the correspondence suddenly stops, it will mean TK recognizes that code. If TK is not Z, maybe he can solve the 340…….

That is a really awesome idea. Not sure if the Admax would allow it though, they have some rules on codes and symbols. Maybe to cut out the risk I’ll get a friend to send it and see what happens.

If you just pop the 340 on TK cold, that won’t work. He will not reply and that will burn the communication and tell you nothing.

The idea is to establish a pattern of an ongoing dialogue about codes in general. Then after awhile, and I’m thinking maybe 6 months or a year or even more, when you introduce a disguised version of the 340, if TK breaks the pattern by suddenly going silent, that would be significant.

why not take the corresponddence you have received from Ted and have it tested for dna?

Also, if you guys have any questions for me about Kaczynski, feel free to ask. I know someone who has spoken with Kaczynski for a longer time than me and I can pass on any questions to them as well.

What would be cool, although risky to your ongoing communications, would be a scenario like this:

Get with the crypto guys like Jarlve and Smokie and others, and work out a plan. First, have a discussion on codes that is general, as this is something that TK is interested in, and would give him something to think about in his ample free time. Gradually make the conversation more detailed, the sample codes and methods more complex. And then, eventually, get to the point where you send TK a code to solve, which is the 340, but you replace all the original 340 symbols with some other characters, so it doesn’t look like the 340.

If the correspondence suddenly stops, it will mean TK recognizes that code. If TK is not Z, maybe he can solve the 340…….

I’m 95 -98% sure Ted is Zodiac, so he will not give any clues or help to solve the 340. Even on the 2-5% chance Ted is not Z, he would not help solve a code that could help the FBI catch a criminal, an enemy of the state.

I am in correspondence with Kaczynski. I am not a sympathizer (his punishment is what he deserves). I have a personal interest in his lifestyle and writing. I don’t know if I agree that Ted could be the Zodiac Killer, but the evidence presented is certainly interesting. I noticed some people on here want to hear from him. I thought it would be a good idea to ask you guys to recommend some questions to put in the next letter.

I will not be able to pick all the questions. I’ve seen where he has ignored people if he sensed they were accusatory. Please be mindful of the wording and detail.

If he answers them, I will post the photocopies.

Also, if you guys have any questions for me about Kaczynski, feel free to ask. I know someone who has spoken with Kaczynski for a longer time than me and I can pass on any questions to them as well.

I can tell you right now if you ask Ted any questions about the Zodiac case, he will not answer them and he will cease all communication with you. My advice to you would be to keep communicating, share what you choose to here and avoid any questions on Zodiac. I can tell you based on past experience there is a 0% chance he will answer any Zodiac question and a 100% chance he stop all future communication with you if you ask him one.

Also, if you guys have any questions for me about Kaczynski, feel free to ask. I know someone who has spoken with Kaczynski for a longer time than me and I can pass on any questions to them as well.

What would be cool, although risky to your ongoing communications, would be a scenario like this:

Get with the crypto guys like Jarlve and Smokie and others, and work out a plan. First, have a discussion on codes that is general, as this is something that TK is interested in, and would give him something to think about in his ample free time. Gradually make the conversation more detailed, the sample codes and methods more complex. And then, eventually, get to the point where you send TK a code to solve, which is the 340, but you replace all the original 340 symbols with some other characters, so it doesn’t look like the 340.

If the correspondence suddenly stops, it will mean TK recognizes that code. If TK is not Z, maybe he can solve the 340…….

I’m 95 -98% sure Ted is Zodiac, so he will not give any clues or help to solve the 340. Even on the 2-5% chance Ted is not Z, he would not help solve a code that could help the FBI catch a criminal, an enemy of the state.

That is the point. Suppose someone has an ongoing conversation with Ted about codes. let’s say the conversation goes on for a year or longer. Then, in a casual way (not saying it is a Zodiac code,) you send a disguised version of it. For example, the half-filled circle, you represent with a 7, the letter A is represented by ( and so on. If Ted suddenly ends the conversation, that means he has recognized the code as the 340. Now, who but Z would do that?

You’re not looking for Ted to necessarily solve it, or to "help you catch Z." You are looking for a pattern established with Ted to be suddenly broken, by introducing a code into the mix that likely only the real Z would be able to identify as being significant to the Z case.

What would be cool, although risky to your ongoing communications, would be a scenario like this:

Get with the crypto guys like Jarlve and Smokie and others, and work out a plan. First, have a discussion on codes that is general, as this is something that TK is interested in, and would give him something to think about in his ample free time. Gradually make the conversation more detailed, the sample codes and methods more complex. And then, eventually, get to the point where you send TK a code to solve, which is the 340, but you replace all the original 340 symbols with some other characters, so it doesn’t look like the 340.

If the correspondence suddenly stops, it will mean TK recognizes that code. If TK is not Z, maybe he can solve the 340…….

AK Wilks: I’m 95 -98% sure Ted is Zodiac, so he will not give any clues or help to solve the 340. Even on the 2-5% chance Ted is not Z, he would not help solve a code that could help the FBI catch a criminal, an enemy of the state.

Marshall: That is the point. Suppose someone has an ongoing conversation with Ted about codes. let’s say the conversation goes on for a year or longer. Then, in a casual way (not saying it is a Zodiac code,) you send a disguised version of it. For example, the half-filled circle, you represent with a 7, the letter A is represented by ( and so on. If Ted suddenly ends the conversation, that means he has recognized the code as the 340. Now, who but Z would do that?

You’re not looking for Ted to necessarily solve it, or to "help you catch Z." You are looking for a pattern established with Ted to be suddenly broken, by introducing a code into the mix that likely only the real Z would be able to identify as being significant to the Z case.

AK Wilks: IMO this will not work. Ted is not stupid. He has a beyond genius IQ of over 160, Einstein level. I am about 95 – 98% sure he is Z, but either way he will recognize the code. He has no interest in solving codes. He is idolized by many in the radical envirmental and primitivist anarchist movements. That is his interest know. They see him as a hero, a political terrorist who fought corporations. He does not want to be exposed as the Zodiac, a sick psychopathic serail killer, who shot and stabbed teens in lovers lanes.

Everyone is free to write to him whatever they want, but I warn you he will not answer any questions on Zodiac or codes, and if anyone does so, he will stop all future communication.

Very, very interesting second question, Jelberg. I think TK wanted to take a small part in the annihilation of humanity, like the super villain at the end of an action movie, who makes a speech to the hero, explaining how and why he/she is insignificant while trying to crush his/her bones with a super villain machine he created himself ^^

Idk about all of humanity, it seems Kaczynski sought to kill "big shots" that he considered enemies of his belief system or affected his personal world (like the airplanes and chainsaws a near his property that he believed caused his heart palpitations). He stated after planting one of his bombs that he was worried a humanities student would pick it up. But, when he found out an aspiring astronaut did he was happy. I think the selective empathy is a trait of narcissism. He certainly wants to be remembered as some sort of antihero.

I think you are very wrong in your view of TK. But it is the view shared by, I would guess,80 – 90% of people in the media and the general public, and even about 80% of police and FBI that I have dealt with and given information. Ted would have been slightly upset if a humanties student picked up the bomb because he would see that as a waste of his money and months of work in building a bomb.

It should also be pointed out that while Kaczynski did have very strong views about corporations and technology and these were part of his motive for committing the bombing murders he pled guilty to, in his secret coded journal he makes it clear that killing makes him feel better, killing people gives him some kind of "release" ( "sexual" or otherwise he told a psychiatrist, in a rare moment of self honesty), that he desires revenge against all of society and that virtually every person living in society is his enemy. Kaczynski wrote in the Fall of 1977:

"The technological society may be in some sense inevitable, but it is so only because of the way people behave. Consequently I hate people…Almost anyone who holds steady employment is contributing his part in maintaining the technological society…I emphasize that my motivation is personal revenge. I don’t pretend to any kind of philosophical or moralistic justification."

Indeed, on November 15, 1979, Kaczynski put a bomb on United Airlines Flight 444 from Chicago to Washington, DC. Had the bomb exploded properly, all of the hundreds on board would have died – men, women, the elderly, college students, housewives, secretaries, factory workers, children and infants. Ordinary people.

As it only partially exploded into a minor fireball, the plane was able to make an emergency landing with passengers treated for smoke inhalation.

Kaczynski recorded in his journal his joy of reading the gory details of his bombings in the newspaper. He placed nails and razor blades in his bombs.

And you have to consider what first drove Ted Kaczynski to desire to kill people. It was not primarily a belief in the importance of preserving the environment or fear of technology. It was the sexual frustration, depression and psycho-sexual confusion we see in many serial killers.

In the summer of 1966, most likely late August/early September 1966, Ted Kaczynski records a break through moment in his life. He is a genius, yet socially alienated and isolated. He describes hearing the sound of couples having sex in the apartment next door to his, and he says it fills him with frustration and anger. Out of despair and self described "acute sexual starvation", he records in his journal that instead of killing himself he will "really kill everyone I hate."

The people he says he hates and wants to kill are many, but they include two distinct groups. One group is what he calls "bigshots" or "government officials", and these include "scientists", "big businessmen", "politicians" and "police". This is what we would expect to see in the man who became the Unabomber

But the other group of people he hated and wanted to kill included love making "couples", "college students" and those college men and especially women he deems "promiscuous", who are nothing but "animals" and "pigs".

Who did the Zodiac kill? College students and promiscuous couples – couples who were in isolated places known to be spots for making out or sex.

Look at the government psychiatric report on Kaczynski done after he was arrested for the Unabomber crimes:

In the summer after his fourth year [of graduate school, the summer of 1966], he describes experiencing a period of several weeks where he was sexually excited nearly all the time and was fantasizing himself as a woman and being unable to obtain any sexual relief. He decided to make an effort to have a sex change operation. When he returned to the University of Michigan [most likely in late August or early September 1966] he made an appointment to see a psychiatrist to be examined to determine if the sex change would be good for him. He claimed that by putting on an act he could con the psychiatrist into thinking him suitable for a feminine role even though his motive was exclusively erotic. As he was sitting in the waiting room, he turned completely against the idea of the operation and thus, when he saw the doctor, instead claimed he was depressed about the possibility of being drafted. He describes the following:

"As I walked away from the building afterwards, I felt disgusted about what my uncontrolled sexual cravings had almost led me to do and I felt humiliated, and I violently hated the psychiatrist. Just then there came a major turning point in my life. Like a Phoenix, I burst from the ashes of my despair to a glorious new hope. I thought I wanted to kill that psychiatrist because the future looked utterly empty to me. I felt I wouldn’t care if I died. And so I said to myself why not really kill the psychiatrist and anyone else whom I hate. What is important is not the words that ran through my mind but the way I felt about them. What was entirely new was the fact that I really felt I could kill someone. My very hopelessness had liberated me because I no longer cared about death. I no longer cared about consequences and I said to myself that I really could break out of my rut in life an do things that were daring, irresponsible or criminal ." [Psych Report] {Emphasis added}

That happened sometime in the summer of 1966, most likely in late August/early September 1966. Probably mere days later, on or around September 3, 1966, minutes away from the Kaczynski family home in Evergreen Park, Illinois, bombs go off at the suburban Chicago house of Elmwood Park Mayor Elmer Conti and at a glass company on Paulina St. in Chicago.

Within weeks there is another attack on a home of an Illinois bigshot businessman, owner of high tech company and politician Republican Senate nominee and Bell & Howell CEO Charles Percy, this one far more brutal and lethal, and his daughter Valerie Percy is murdered on September 18.

One week later, on or about September 27, 1966, Monsanto chemical engineer Jerry Bricca, his wife Linda and daughter Debbie in suburban Cincinnati are bound and killed. Based on information and evidence I provided them, including the exact MO matches between Santa Barbara 1963 and the Bricca case, including binding the victims and placing the female atop the male, the HCSD issued a press release saying Zodiac was a POI in the Bricca case.

On October 30, 1966, when evidence shows Ted Kaczynski is in California to interview for and start his U Cal job, , the first probable Zodiac crime, the murder of college student Cheri Jo Bates occurs.

His first confirmed Unabomber crime was in 1978, when he was 36 years old. Yet we know from research that the most active and violent period for the majority of serial killers is from their late teens to late twenties. And we see that Kaczynski reports the motivation, desire and ability to kill at least as early as the summer of 1966, when he is 24.

IMO Kaczynski is already ruled out for being Z. Police surely has both DNA, Z’s and Kaczynski’s. So far, no match. Also, Z never was an anti-technology buff. Z also had rather an outgoing personality, Kaczynski was the opposite.

If I asked Kaczynski, the following would be of interest:

1. Do you know anybody who had KILLED someone or had talked about doing so?
2. Have you ever TALKED to somebody about setting up bombs?
3. At the time you started to make BOMBS, where did you get your knowledge from about how to do it?

If Z was inspired by K or vice versa regarding the setting up of bombs, it would explain e.g. why Z had started the bomb issue only once (while K went on with it..).

One could also ask him about Z’s bomb letter and its mechanism and what K’s thoughts are about it.

QT

The police have NOT successfully obtained Zodiac DNA. There are new attempts underway now with new technology to try to obtain authentic Zodiac DNA. Those attempts may or may not be successful. Hopefully they will work.

I can personally say that Kaczynski has not had his DNA entered into the system. The police or FBI would need to obtain a warrant to get his DNA to compare it to Zodiac and / or Tylenol. That has not been done as of today.

I am working on getting that done, so assuming police do obtain authentic Zodiac DNA, they will be able to compare to Kaczynski DNA obtained through a warrant. I’m trying to make that happen now.

But it’s absolutely incorrect to say that the police currently have Zodiac DNA and Kaczynski DNA. That’s absolutely not true on both fronts. As of right now, there is no authentic Zodiac DNA and police have not obtained Kaczynski’s DNA.

I don’t know what you mean when you say that Zodiac had a rather outgoing personality and Kaczynski did not. They were both serial killers and they both wrote to newspapers, demanding their words appear in the paper or innocents would die.

They both threatened to bomb mass transit (Zodiac = Buses, Kaczynski = Airplanes). They both designed bombs.

They both created elaborate codes that the FBI could not break.

The Zodiac killed promiscuous couples of college-age, as he targeted places were young couples went to make out or have sex. Kaczynski wrote in his journal in September of 1966 that he now was able to and would really kill all the people he hated, and the people he hated included "couples", "college students" and especially those men and women he thought were "promiscuous".

They both drew crossed lines inside circles at crime scenes. They both owned guns with flashlights attached to the barrel. They both owned and used Winchester .22 caliber Super X ammo. They both designed and built black hoods.

They both used at least 24 of the same words and phrases:

Around in the snow, contrary to what police said, in order to prove, facts only I and the police know, nasty, fat ass, shabby, rather messy, blast, goes bang, trigger mechanism, busy work and at least 12 more.