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"Zodiac: Settling the Score"

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Tahoe27
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There is no doubt these people have come to these message boards. It’s where a lot of information is passed around.

I won’t be reading it since I pretty much know what happened now…just not who did it. ;)

Please let me know if it is any good…aside of her POI.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : September 23, 2015 10:10 pm
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Another, Book! That makes a total of 3. It looks to me that the only way to get
This case solved is to write a book. Oh well…so be it, I best get started. I am
Going to need some help with writing a book. Where to begin at the beginning.

 
Posted : September 23, 2015 11:44 pm
Norse
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That makes a total of 3.

If only…

 
Posted : September 24, 2015 12:01 am
Tahoe27
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Maybe a typo–lack of another 3. :)


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : September 24, 2015 12:04 am
Norse
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Also, based on the evidence, the way to solve the case is definitely not to write a book. In fact, whatever you do, do NOT write a book.

Become a cop. That’s step one. Get a job in San Francisco. Step two. Get assigned to the (cold) Z case. Step three.

After having dug up all the relevant material nobody on here has seen, and drawn your conclusions based on that, get in touch with all the other jurisdictions – and look at their material. Some of which has not been seen by anyone on here either. That’s step four.

Then…draw your conclusion(s) again. That’s step five.

Then…hopefully you’ve made some kind of progress.

I doubt you’ll have solved the damn thing – but at least you should’ve gained some juicy info you can now share with the rest of us. Which would be step six.

 
Posted : September 24, 2015 12:16 am
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That’s what I like about this case. It’s been solved so many times, and yet people keep working on it.

-glurk

And all of these Authors keep making money, and they don’t even have to be right. sort of like the weather man :)

Isn’t that the truth!!!

 
Posted : September 24, 2015 4:18 pm
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She may be a former detective, but so was the guy who falsely accused his father of being Zodiac and the Black Dahlia Killer. And detectives have no special training in codes.

Ahh, but…….

"There are so many crackpots and theories, but we take the ones that come in from ex- or current law enforcement a little more seriously," said Pat McMahon, a detective with the sheriff’s office in Napa County, where the Zodiac stabbed two people, one fatally, in 1969.

http://m.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Zodiac-sleuths-with-police-skills-keep-case-alive-2355704.php

Soze

Which makes sense.

If ones only interest is the zodiac killer case and not helping in any other more low profile cases you will be seen as a creepy zodiac fanatic looking for fame and you will be pushed aside. Rightfully so. Idiots never even visited a crime scene or stepped foot in California to physically search out info but hey here’s my f*cking book. Disgusting. Profiting off dead people. It pisses me off so much as I actually help on many cases for the right reason – not the money or fame or attention. There are monsters just as bad if not worse than the zodiac. He just so happened to get the coverage.

Would be nice for this detective to solve one of the countless cold cases that probably lies within her own jurisdiction. But oh wait that would involve a selfless extension of help devoid of ego or financial gain… And well… That wouldn’t benefit her much huh.

Sorry I’m a little nasty today bc the effing cold case unit at long beach was shut down again bc of poor funding. More victims forgotten. There’s plenty of cold case units going belly up everywhere. It takes community/citizens to help solve many crimes at this point.

 
Posted : September 24, 2015 7:13 pm
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Yes, I do want to know what you really think!

 
Posted : September 24, 2015 10:21 pm
doranchak
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Someone amended the Zodiac Killer wiki article with this:

In a 2015 book, former sheriff’s deputy Kimberly McGath proposed Dennis Rader, also known as the "BTK killer", as a Zodiac suspect, based on general similarities and other circumstantial evidence. Rader was stationed overseas as a member of the Air Force from 1968 through 1970.

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : September 30, 2015 4:36 pm
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BTK was not the murder in the zodiac case. BTK got caught!!!
Like the police couldn’t figure it out with the CD. Hell,even I know
That much. But, he was cruel and sadistic and photographed his
Victims. Remember, BTK, had a family,belong to the
Community and a religious organization. Good cover!
You all know BTK is still Alife in prison, I have never Heard him say
He was the Murder in the zodiac case.

 
Posted : September 30, 2015 6:56 pm
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Next book will be saying that The Smile Face killer was the murderer
In the zodiac case. The smile face killer Took it very personally about
His kills. Most serial killers do!!!they do not want any one taking Credit
For it. Of course, that’s what got Smile face caught. Now I’m getting
Pissed off.

 
Posted : September 30, 2015 7:11 pm
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Someone amended the Zodiac Killer wiki article with this:

In a 2015 book, former sheriff’s deputy Kimberly McGath proposed Dennis Rader, also known as the "BTK killer", as a Zodiac suspect, based on general similarities and other circumstantial evidence. Rader was stationed overseas as a member of the Air Force from 1968 through 1970.

Have always wondered if he went through Travis AFB near Vallejo going to/from deployment.
(Also if he or the zodiac ever had involvement with visiting March AFB in Riverside for any reason during the CJB murder.)

I don’t think he is the zodiac, but I think it would be worth checking out.

 
Posted : September 30, 2015 10:21 pm
AK Wilks
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It is clear Rader was influenced by Zodiac in things like giving himself a name and symbol, sending taunting letters to police and sending in one code/puzzle. But if he was out of state or worse overseas for the time period of all the confirmed Z cases, how could he be Z? Also BTK’s crimes involved suburban home invasions against families, overt torture and explicit sexual elements like rape. Very unlike the confirmed Z crimes of killing teens and young adult couples in outdoor settings, with no explicit or overt torture, sexuality or rape.

Rader was overseas in the military from 1968 – 1970, which would seem to cover all the confirmed Zodiac crimes, meaning it is impossible for him to have been Zodiac.

If true this is pretty wacky. Add her to the list of Hodel and Lafferty as former law enforcement who nonetheless came up with weak, unsupported and just plain wrong suspects in the Z case.

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Posted : September 30, 2015 10:35 pm
doranchak
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I found this anonymous review of her book:

I did (reluctantly) buy the book, despite its extortionate price. Don’t waste your time or money.

Her claim, in the promo materials, of having "discovered the Zodiac killer’s identity" is monumentally presumptuous. In fact, she merely proposes Rader as a suspect, based on gossamer circumstantial evidence.

The writing is abysmal, and at least 50% of the text consists of what amount to diary entries — folksy reminiscences of what the author was doing with family and friends during the period that she was conducting her "investigation", which consisted, essentially, of a Google search. Basically, she drew up a comparison of behavioral characteristics that she found compelling, but I found totally unconvincing. She compares handwriting (which does not match at all), and points out that some of the Zodiac crime scenes were near Air Force bases — except (as I pointed out in the article) Rader was stationed in Japan and Okinawa from 1968 through 1970, which more than covers the entire time period of the Zodiac’s confirmed murders. She explains this away by saying that as an Air Force guy, he "might have traveled extensively" while he was oversees. (A pilot, maybe, or a high-level officer — but an airman? Don’t think so.) She claims to be a former police detective, but made no effort to do any of the things a detective would do before drawing such a bold conclusion, e.g. question the suspect (or at very least, detectives familiar with the suspect), review the physical evidence, etc., etc.

The simple fact of the matter is that serial killers are uncommon (thank goodness), and most of them share many personality traits and idiosyncrasies — that’s why profilers stay employed. Which means that she could have drawn up a similar list of similarities between Zodiac and Ted Bundy, Zodiac and the Green River guy, Zodiac and the Hillside Strangler, et cetera, ad infinitum. So I don’t think anyone with any real knowledge of the Zodiac evidence is going to take her theory at all seriously — and so far, as far as I can tell, no one has.

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : October 1, 2015 12:11 am
Tahoe27
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And there you have it. Thanks doranchak!


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : October 1, 2015 3:49 am
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