It was not frozen on September 27th 1969. The temperature was probably still in excess of 20 degrees Celsius at 6.30 pm. It was a hot day. http://www.wunderground.com/history/air … .wmo=99999

Forgive me, I was thinking of a different footprint. Thank you for putting me right.

Hey Sandy, I did read MK-Zodiac a while back and it did more to dissuade me that Z murdered Domingos and Edwards. That said, I have to admit that I’m not so sure anymore about Gilmore being responsible.

I’ve also become more certain that Fouke saw the same guy the kids witnessed wiping down Stine’s cab. I have no doubt now.

As for Hodel, all I can say is I feel duped for buying that book, and I want my money back, Steve!

Bill Baker who worked the Santa Barbara case is pretty sure it was the Zodiac . Maybe the 22 shells were a match to Lake Herman rd ? The Det’s can’t tell everything, so there must be something that makes him feel that way. I know Bill and trust his judgenent. Lake Berryessa Zodiac made sure he didn’t make the same mistakes that he did in the Santa Barbara case is what many think. ( Making sure this time they were both tied up and that one tied the other)

I didn’t buy Hodel’s book because there was nothing that I felt had anything to do with whom I believe was Zodiac. I have bought many other Zodiac books, because they did have what I believe to have Zodiac related information in them.

As for Gilmore being in Calif. I would like to see some proof of that. He was someone who couldn’t go a few weeks without commiting a crime and seemed to get caught most of the time.

Your evidence that Zodiac was responsible for Domingos/Edwards comes from the guy who couldn’t solve the case? Seems legit! There is simply no reason to link the murders to LB…they occurred years apart and hundreds of miles away from one another. The MO of tying someone up at gunpoint is NOT AT ALL UNIQUE. Lots of murders are committed with .22 caliber weapons. And the fact that the Domingos murderer tried to cover his tracks while Zodiac did not at LB strongly suggests that it wasn’t the same killer.

There is one certainty that many people may contest but from Z’s symbol/Odin’s cross to the concept of "slaves in the afterlife" to the runic symbol on the Avery card to the word "Thing" to the word "karmann" to the Norwegian word for the "basement" where Z stored his "bus bomb" (and finally the "sla" letter), this case screams out someone very familiar with Norse/Viking culture. Norse culture is the only common thread that links all of the above items, many of which taken in a vacuum can have multiple explanations absent that common thread.

Mike

Zodiac Symbol – when I google Odin’s Cross, I get a variety of images, some that look like Z’s symbol and others that are different. It is unclear whether the Zodiac Symbol was Odin’s Cross.

Slaves in the Afterlife – Viking slaves were already the slaves of the dead viking, who just continue to be slaves in Valhala. There is no analogue in Norse mythology of someone killing someone and making them their slave in the afterlife. They had to be your slave in life to be your slave in the afterlife. This is not similar to the Zodiac’s usage of slaves in the afterlife.

Thing – You are just reading into this. "Do my Thing" is a colloquial idiom. There is no reason to think Zodiac was referring to an old Norse word.

Karmann – I don’t follow your logic here, either.

If the "SLA" letter is a forgery, your theory about Norse connections largely falls apart. You don’t know that Zodiac sent this letter…even if you think he did, you can’t prove it. Similarities in the envelopes don’t matter. Chronicle employees would have been familiar with these conventions. Reporters had reasons to continue to perpetuate the Zodiac letters long after he disappeared to sell papers. Also, police had motive to send fake letters to try to smoke Zodiac out. Until this letter is definitively linked to Z, you got nothing.

Bumerke – that symbol could be a bumerke. It could also be the Mt. Diablo on the skyline. It could be a bunch of squiggly lines that mean something to Z and no one else. You have no idea what it is and neither do I.

I’m certain the crosshair symbol is much more than just a crosshair symbol. It has astrological associations, as a sign for the earth, it also has racist associations as the celtic cross, as well as associations with the occult. As a symbol it was obviously of great importance to The Zodiac. Personally I think it represents Odin’s cross.

Odin means Allfather in Norse. He is represented as the furious one, as in the red phanthom (red with rage). Odin, in fact, stands for everything Zodiac stands for. They are high, almighty executionors. They both represent war, defeat, death, astrology, violence, cunning and deception.

At this point I think Mike R. has presented so much circumstantial evidence of this man, KQ, who happened to be outside walking a few blocks away that night in PH, that if we had to place bets, I know who I’d put my money on to be at least somehow involved.

I still think it’s possible that there could be more than one man at work here, but let’s say it is one guy working alone, than shouldn’t the composite and descriptions provided by witnesses in PH take precedence over all others, and if they don’t fit, it renders those other descriptions useless. KQ matches the description that matters.

I wonder in the unsolved ciphers are written in Norse.

I wouldn’t rule Qvale out, but it seems odd to me that he would start killing at 49. I would expect to see a trail of unsolved murders following him wherever he went from his early 20s to the early 70s. We don’t evidently see that. Why would he start killing at 49, have a one year career and then quit? It seems odd. That observation doesn’t exonerate him, but it is just strange.

Your evidence that Zodiac was responsible for Domingos/Edwards comes from the guy who couldn’t solve the case? Seems legit! There is simply no reason to link the murders to LB…

Since you’re so smart, please cite other examples of a couple being bound and attacked by a body of water in the same state within 5 or 6 years of each other, where a knife, a gun, and pre-cut bindings were involved. I’ll wait.