And if those Detectives would have followed up on her and her husband after that sketch came out… they put all their effort investigating him, the moment they saw his face.
No, sorry I just meant his four years.
Thanks for clarifying. I was thinking if Tom was a Vietnam vet, the "Nam" in the "My Name Is" could refer to Vietnam. I’ve always thought that Zodiac’s spree may have been triggered by the horror of the war. But regardless, Tom’s Navy background and presence at military bases makes him a good suspect.
And yes, fine points about "Miss Axe’s" lying.
Either way you speculate, you can’t speculate that she lied and lying to the police during a double murder investigation of 2 teenagers is very very very suspect.
We don’t know that she did lie. It’s most likely she and her husband were estranged/separated at that time and it was indeed her boyfriend she was with that night.
Either way you speculate, you can’t speculate that she lied and lying to the police during a double murder investigation of 2 teenagers is very very very suspect.
We don’t know that she did lie. It’s most likely she and her husband were estranged/separated at that time and it was indeed her boyfriend she was with that night.
That would depend on them being close enough to marry as teens, but then splitting up after three years, and then reuniting to settle down. If the "boyfriend" was another sailor he was possibly one of Tom’s buddies (awkward). Surely a wide-eyed wedded couple would take longer than that to fall out?
Another arrest record for Tom Axe (cashing bad checks). Auburn/dark red hair. https://arrestfacts.com/Thomas-Axe-6C445
Another nice find Jacob. That means we can put his timeline in Texas at 1986.
And put his height from 5′ 9" – 11"
Also his hair being almost blondeish brown in the photo – Brown on arrest record – and Red on Arrest Record.
Zodiac is said to have Brown hair with Red Tint – Some say brownish – blonde.
Great find.
I’m going to start searching lovers lane killings in Texas from 86′ on, it will be tough though, texas is big and there are a lot of truckers and serial killers there that were active in 80’s-90’s.
Another nice find Jacob. That means we can put his timeline in Texas at 1986.
Texan terminology featured in Zodiac letters. viewtopic.php?f=40&t=3408&start=10#p53640
Zodiac is said to have Brown hair with Red Tint – Some say brownish – blonde.
Reminds me that he was described as looking Welsh. I’m English and not sure of what Welsh people usually look like, but they are more likely to be redheads.
When the Zodiac speaks of lake Tahoe, around the time of April to March 1970, Donna Lass Comes to mind for his 12th victim, but what about his 11th?
Okay, this is something:
Keep in mind that they arrested someone for this crime. John Lyman, 28 years old, he was working a spring job in Idaho or something, I guess they thought he passed through Nevada at some point.
Lyman was adamant about his innocence. His lawyer was too. The only thing they had to convict him was the witness account with a bar patron who had been drinking in the Greyhound bus station bar in Reno. The Man he spoke with never even fully looked at the patron, who could only give a profile description from sketch. Other than that there was no motive, no robery, no other witness. The prosicution had a witness, a police officer who said they overheard Lyman confess while in county lock up. Lyman denied this. Lyman’s lawyer found another guard at the county jail, that stated he had heard Lyman state exactly the opposite, he said he spoke only of his innocense and unknowing of the crime at all. However, for the Judge to throw out the other jail officer’s negative second hand testimony, he would have to throw out both, or allow both. Lyman’s lawyer went with the throwing out of both. Giving the prosecution only the Patron’s description and account of a conversation, also a Sacramento Pawn Shop owner who said he sold someone who looked like John Lyman a shotgun the same week. That would be thrown out too in any other court. Regardless, he was convicted of First degree murder and sent to prison, can’t find if he ever got out or not.
Recapping, Lyman didn’t wear glasses, didn’t have any solid evidence against him and had no motive. Also, other than a statement, none of the ladies at the Mustang Brothel ever took the stand, maybe too taboo to have a legal prostitute as a witness?
I would also like to note that the Bar Patron said that "Jimmy" got up and went to the bathroom with his "Little Black Bag", was in there a while, then walked out and grabbed a Taxi, presumably to commit the murder. The Reno Police searched the bathroom stall and found a shotgun barrel. Soooo…. how did he shoot the driver? The Entire case against him says he bought a shotgun and used it, was he sawing and filing it down in the bathroom with his portable Vise, hack saw and Metal file? If the Innocense project was around back then, Lyman would be freed before the cops could say unemployment.
Why I think it is a Zodiac Killing? – No motive, Taxi Driver Killing like Paul Stine, Sketch Resembles Zodiac, and Right Across the Street from the Mustang Ranch was the Rocketdyne Nevada Field Labratory, a Nasa Rocket testing and Building Labratory that was going through a Contract change in those months, from Rocketdyne to Other NASA contractors. Probably Lockheed and JBL. They worked in heavy conjuction with Naval Ordinance and Air Force, this was the most instrumental site in the space race and was Top Secret. The Link has pop ups, sorry about that.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/03/16/nevada-field-laboratory-rocket-engine-testing-pollution/6493183/
If you check his spelling of the word "victim" as "victom" – following the suggestion he viewed himself as a victim of society before resorting into his murderous acts – and the fact that the last (IMHO) letter from him in 1974 was citing the song "On a Tree by a River a Little Tom Tit"
Regarding "victom", I should mention that this features in the "Little List" letter in which he quotes another piece sung by the axeman Ko-Ko.
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/the-littl … etter.html
In the same letter he mentions clues in radians, which as I mentioned someone in the Navy would be well-acquainted with.
Surely a wide-eyed wedded couple would take longer than that to fall out?
Not necessarily, one of my best friends was married and divorced twice before he was 20.
Another nice find Jacob. That means we can put his timeline in Texas at 1986.
Texan terminology featured in Zodiac letters. viewtopic.php?f=40&t=3408&start=10#p53640
That’s not Texas terminology, it’s just something people in the English speaking world have said for a very long time. Probably comes from the British saying of "don’t give a fiddler’s fart", which means to not care.
Surely a wide-eyed wedded couple would take longer than that to fall out?
Not necessarily, one of my best friends was married and divorced twice before he was 20.
Fair enough, but Tom and Helen Axe spent their lives together. Doesn’t rule out a falling out but worth bearing in mind.
Where you with another man, parked out on the road for privacy?
If so, now you give a bit of motive to your husband.
Solid point. There is good reason to think Zodiac was motivated by bitterness and jealously (whether he was ALA, Sullivan, Ted K or whomever).
Axe lived in Houston in 1990 8 miles from this crime. People seem to go back and forth on possible zodiac killing because of the writing and if it is or not. Doesn’t look like it to me but others think so.
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=832&p=6476&hilit=Cheryl+Henry#p6476
The date he moved there was 1990 as well so not only living there but there just in time for this to happen.
