Years later Fouke claimed he last saw the person walking up some steps to a home, even gave the address. Not sure how much I believe him though.
The sound is cut in the video of this, but there must exist a tape with the actual house number on it. Did the documentary crew the house number to the police? Or did Fouke tell the police this at some point? I wonder whose house it was.
Marienbad, the address that was cut from Don Fouke’s statement is 3712 Jackson St.
Years later Fouke claimed he last saw the person walking up some steps to a home, even gave the address. Not sure how much I believe him though.
The sound is cut in the video of this, but there must exist a tape with the actual house number on it. Did the documentary crew the house number to the police? Or did Fouke tell the police this at some point? I wonder whose house it was.
Marienbad, the address that was cut from Don Fouke’s statement is 3712 Jackson St.
I take it this address has been investigated, either by SFPD or people on here (and the like elsewhere)?
I take it this address has been investigated, either by SFPD or people on here (and the like elsewhere)?
I’m sure the Detectives looked into the people that lived there.
I don’t recall reading a discussion here on the board regarding that address.
Does anyone here have a 1969 polk directory for San Francisco that can lookup the name for that address ?
He might have started to have trouble finding couples out parking, what with the other murders. Might be why LB was in the day time.
I also wonder if he lost his car or driving privileges which is why he chose Stine, couldn’t drive around and find anyone, though I suspect he had his car parked nearby and simply got in and drove away.
Interesting thoughts.
There is something unique about the stine murder, it does not fit zodiac’s typical pattern.
However, I am not certain as to whether a lack of potential unsuspecting victims was the issue.
I think zodiac was making an effort to break the pattern, but why stine? And why was it done in such a fashion? I can not say, but I think the answers to these questions will ultimately be quite revealing.
I think it’s possible he never even intended to kill on the night of the Stine murder. Maybe the taxi ride conversation went south and he just snapped. It would explain the sudden change in MO, all previous attacks were of couples.
I suspect that zodiac intended to kill someone on the night that stine was murdered…
It happened on a dali day of the 13 moon calender…
confirmed zodiac murders which occur on dali day
·Friday December 20, 1968 = dali day
·Friday July 4, 1969 = dali day
·Saturday September 27, 1969 = dali day
·Saturday October 11th 1969 = dali day
*Sunday September 6, 1970 =dali day (lass)
suspected zodiac crimes which do not occur on dali day
·Tuesday June 4, 1963 = limi day
·Sunday October 30, 1966 = limi day (bates)
·Sunday March 22, 1970 = seli day (Johns)
The stine murder occurred on a "dali day" of the 13 moon calender, as did nearly every other confirmed zodiac crime (including donna lass)
…and while this probably means virtually nothing, the odds of all the confirmed zodiac murders occurring on dali days are astronomical, so it was probably intentional, and if it was intentional then stine was probably a planned murder to some degree… (or perhaps zodiac knew that he simply needed to kill on a dali day and stine happened to be the best opportunity)
Interesting thoughts.
There is something unique about the stine murder, it does not fit zodiac’s typical pattern.
Well, it doesn’t fit the pattern we think we know. I mean, we don’t really know how many people he killed, we just know the ones he claimed. I’m not convinced he killed couples because of some vendetta against them. It could be they were just easy targets, unsuspecting people out alone who he had good reason to think would be unarmed.
To me, the most terrifying aspect to Zodiac was that he didn’t want to rape you, he didn’t want to rob you, he just wanted to kill you. So as long as he thought he could get you and no would see it, you were a potential victim.
However, I am not certain as to whether a lack of potential unsuspecting victims was the issue.
It’s possible he thought police might attempt a trap, parking two police out in what would appear to be two people alone but in reality was a set up. Sometimes it seemed he had some insider knowledge of police activities and their patrols.
I think zodiac was making an effort to break the pattern, but why stine? And why was it done in such a fashion? I can not say, but I think the answers to these questions will ultimately be quite revealing.
Well, I think Stine was a safe target for him. It’s possible all the murders were committed in a place he knew and felt comfortable in. If that’s true, there is a reason he chose these spots and he probably had them scouted out beforehand, knowing how many people were usually around, maybe even where the police would be at that time, etc.
