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(@xcaliber)
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What are you trying to figure out here? If the 1A, 1B etc neighborhood designations were different in 1969 than they are now on realtor maps?

 
Posted : May 17, 2019 7:00 pm
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What are you trying to figure out here? If the 1A, 1B etc neighborhood designations were different in 1969 than they are now on realtor maps?

Yes and if they do in fact correlate with the Postal Districts

 
Posted : May 17, 2019 7:12 pm
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Okay, so no need to complicate it with zip codes, zones, number of high school students per zone — all that seems extraneous.

 
Posted : May 17, 2019 7:43 pm
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Okay, so no need to complicate it with zip codes, zones, number of high school students per zone — all that seems extraneous.

The maps you are referring to were posted by brubaker, I map after this that I posted was from 1969 and from SF planning department, which shows the planning districts.

 
Posted : May 17, 2019 7:57 pm
 Soze
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Use a realtor map of today to study a case from 1969. Ignore the fact that boundaries today, whether it be street, realtor, city, postal, etc., may not have been the same in 1969. Use post office and street mailbox locations of today instead of post offices and street mailboxes of the time. Ignore the fact that post offices and street mailboxes of today may not have even existed in 1969 and may have changed locations several times over the years. Begin your research of the zodiacs possible residence, work location, activities, routes of travel, etc with information and graphics of today. I can’t think of a bigger waste of time and want no part of it.

Soze

 
Posted : May 17, 2019 8:59 pm
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Right, I’m just suggesting simplifying this thread for clarity — also my suggestion re the map would be to leave off anything that is not confirmed. Right now the map is a bit confusing.

 
Posted : May 17, 2019 9:01 pm
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Use a realtor map of today to study a case from 1969. Ignore the fact that boundaries today, whether it be street, realtor, city, postal, etc., may not have been the same in 1969. Use post office and street mailbox locations of today instead of post offices and street mailboxes of the time. Ignore the fact that post offices and street mailboxes of today may not have even existed in 1969 and may have changed locations several times over the years. Begin your research of the zodiacs possible residence, work location, activities, routes of travel, etc with information and graphics of today. I can’t think of a bigger waste of time and want no part of it.

Soze

For the record the map I posted a few posts back was from 1969 and is from the SF planning department. Not sure where I have named mailboxes ? I apologise if I have done something wrong, I was simply trying to add some constructive input.

 
Posted : May 17, 2019 9:06 pm
 Soze
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Use a realtor map of today to study a case from 1969. Ignore the fact that boundaries today, whether it be street, realtor, city, postal, etc., may not have been the same in 1969. Use post office and street mailbox locations of today instead of post offices and street mailboxes of the time. Ignore the fact that post offices and street mailboxes of today may not have even existed in 1969 and may have changed locations several times over the years. Begin your research of the zodiacs possible residence, work location, activities, routes of travel, etc with information and graphics of today. I can’t think of a bigger waste of time and want no part of it.

Soze

I’ll tell you what I will not bother posting anymore, hopefully then I will not waste any more your time !!

For the record the map I posted a few posts back was from 1969 and is from the SF planning department. Not sure where I have named mailboxes ? I apologise if I have done something wrong, I was simply trying to add some constructive input.

You posted a map from 1969. I saw that and did note the date at the time. I wrote about NOT using maps that were not 1969 and, saying this now, at least 1968 to 1970.

So what’s the problem? If someone pissed in your Cheerios today it wasn’t me.

Soze

 
Posted : May 17, 2019 10:03 pm
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My Cheerios are nice and dry, but thanks for asking.

Perhaps I overreacted but we have all been guilty of that haven’t we.

 
Posted : May 17, 2019 10:35 pm
 Soze
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Your welcome. And you did.

Soze

 
Posted : May 17, 2019 10:37 pm
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Your welcome. And you did.

Soze

Well at least that’s cleared up then.

Apparently Thomas Bros maps included postal codes.

 
Posted : May 17, 2019 10:50 pm
 Soze
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I like to be optimistic.

I was going to ask what that letter/number codes meant. You can’t read them. They look like they might be something else though.

Soze

 
Posted : May 17, 2019 10:53 pm
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I like to be optimistic.

I was going to ask what that letter/number codes meant. You can’t read them. They look like they might be something else though.

Soze

Areas for development in the plan

I was hoping that in one of the many plans from 1969, one of the maps could possibly show the postal zones or mail box locations but unfortunately not.

 
Posted : May 17, 2019 10:59 pm
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Soze, I believe their was some sort of postal strike in 1970. I know it would be difficult to speculate on but Do you think this would have impacted any of the letters ?

 
Posted : May 18, 2019 12:24 am
 Soze
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Soze, I believe their was some sort of postal strike in 1970. I know it would be difficult to speculate on but Do you think this would have impacted any of the letters ?

From what I have read, when WW2 broke, a lot of the postal workers went into service. To, deliver the mail, the PO had to hire new employees. These employees couldn’t handle the job like the previous skilled workers could. So the PO had to devise a new plan. They created the zip code, where each number, meant something to the postal worker doing the job. So they had problems long before the strike. But I would think if mail was disrupted due to an unskilled workforce then the same would be true for the strike. Or am I missing your point?

Had a thought: if the zip code was implemented in 1963 wouldn’t there be posts in the newspaper about the routes? I don’t have newspapers.com to check. I suppose I could check ancestry.

Soze

 
Posted : May 18, 2019 1:02 am
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