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(@xcaliber)
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October 13th, 1969 was a Monday, wasn’t it?

 
Posted : April 26, 2019 7:56 pm
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October 13th, 1969 was a Monday, wasn’t it?

:oops: Make it two then

 
Posted : April 26, 2019 7:59 pm
 Soze
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Was gonna write a post on it but haven’t got my thoughts fully together, so, throwing it out there:

The Halloween card, assuming you believe the Z wrote the card (I do), offers the best chance in my opinion rather than trying to nail down a po box. In the cancellation are the numbers 89. That’s the starting zip of Reno, Nevada. Reno, Nevada is home to one of the Sectional Centers for that state. The Reno Sectional Center handles all mail for 10 counties and approximately 52 cities in California that have the 961 zip code. The 10 counties are: Alpine, El Dorado, Lassen, Modoc, Mono, Nevada, Placer, Plumas, Sierra and Siskiyou. The cities are: Hope Valley, Markleeville, Fallen Leaf, South Lake Tahoe, Tahoma, Doyle, Herlong, Janesville, Lake Almanor, Litchfield, Madeline, Milford, Ravendale, Standish, Susanville, Termo, Wendel, Westwood, Alturas, Cedarville, Davis Creek, Eagleville, Fort Bidwell, Lake City, Likely, Coleville, Topaz, Floriston, Truckee, Alpine Meadows, Carnelian Bay, Homewood, Kings Beach, Olympic Valley, Tahoe City, Tahoe Vista, Beckwourth, Blairaden, Blairsden-graegle, Chilcoot, Clio, Hraegle, Cromberg, Portola, Vinton, Calpine, Loyalton, Sattley, Sierra City, Sierraville and Tulelake. Sounds like lot but if you look up these cities, as of 2010, the populations were very low for most; 50 to 2,827. This isn’t counting the major cities like Susanville (17,974), Truckee (16, 180) and South Lake Tahoe (21,403). There was or is a guy here, forgive me but I can’t think at the moment who it was, but they did a name search for vallejo at a given year. The same should be done here for the years 70 and 71. I say 71 because just 5 months later the supposed Donna Lass communication comes and it pretty much deals with this same area.

My two cents….

Soze

 
Posted : April 26, 2019 9:57 pm
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Soze, why would it be postmarked ‘San Francisco’ though?

 
Posted : April 26, 2019 11:08 pm
 Soze
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Destination.

"If the postmark of origin is the same as that of the destinating facility, local, is entered; otherwise, the zip code prefix of the postmark of origin is entered."

Outside of that I honestly don’t know.

Soze

 
Posted : April 27, 2019 1:19 am
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So Basically anywhere in the highlighted area :cry:

 
Posted : April 29, 2019 5:44 pm
 Soze
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County wise, yes. I know. It looks like a lot. But as I said we really are only looking at 52 cities and the bulk are very small.

And thanks for making the chart.

Soze

 
Posted : April 29, 2019 6:29 pm
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Soze, Why would a letter have two franking stamps on it, also what would the last digits, Highlighted in Green denote ?

 
Posted : May 1, 2019 12:27 pm
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I don’t know about "franking notes". My understanding is that "franking" is only done for official, government correspondence. Otherwise, it’s typically referred to a cancellation or a "killer".

As far as the number in green, I believe (and Soze can correct me) that is a postal district code. It looks like 1B which would indicate that the letter was either picked up or processed in Inner Richmond. Inner Richmond is very close to the Stine murder scene. Perhaps, he returned the next day to the scene of the crime, just to mail the letter from a nearby mailbox.

“Murder will out, this my conclusion.”
– Geoffrey Chaucer

 
Posted : May 1, 2019 4:18 pm
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I don’t know about "franking notes". My understanding is that "franking" is only done for official, government correspondence. Otherwise, it’s typically referred to a cancellation or a "killer".

As far as the number in green, I believe (and Soze can correct me) that is a postal district code. It looks like 1B which would indicate that the letter was either picked up or processed in Inner Richmond. Inner Richmond is very close to the Stine murder scene. Perhaps, he returned the next day to the scene of the crime, just to mail the letter from a nearby mailbox.

Sorry not to familiar with the terminology of the post in America. Just thought it was curious that it had been stamped twice. Would it have been so that it covered both stamps ?

 
Posted : May 1, 2019 4:22 pm
 Soze
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I don’t see the lines as indicating 2 postmarks or 2 different cancellations/franking. The postmark indicating date should have lines on both sides of it. It only has the one on the right followed by one below it (the extra one you question). This looks like a problem with the facer-canceler machine in my opinion; perhaps an overlap of mail trying to go through machine at one time.

I don’t know off top of my head which Richmond (inner or central) that the 1B represents without having to look. Sorry. Going through personal things at moment and dont feel like looking. I told Chaucer where it was. I trust that it’s inner.

Soze

 
Posted : May 1, 2019 4:53 pm
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I don’t know off top of my head which Richmond (inner or central) that the 1B represents without having to look. Sorry. Going through personal things at moment and dont feel like looking. I told Chaucer where it was. I trust that it’s inner.

Soze

Yes, I double checked and it represents Inner Richmond which as I said is very near the Stine murder scene.

Think about this though:

What if it doesn’t say "1B"? What if it actually says "7B"?

7B is the district code for Pacific Heights which is literally a 6 block walk from where Paul Stine was murdered. It’s possible Zodiac returned the next day with the letter and the bloody shirt to within yards of the crime scene to mail the letter.

That’s incredibly brazen.

“Murder will out, this my conclusion.”
– Geoffrey Chaucer

 
Posted : May 1, 2019 5:35 pm
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I don’t know off top of my head which Richmond (inner or central) that the 1B represents without having to look. Sorry. Going through personal things at moment and dont feel like looking. I told Chaucer where it was. I trust that it’s inner.

Soze

Yes, I double checked and it represents Inner Richmond which as I said is very near the Stine murder scene.

Think about this though:

What if it doesn’t say "1B"? What if it actually says "7B"?

7B is the district code for Pacific Heights which is literally a 6 block walk from where Paul Stine was murdered. It’s possible Zodiac returned the next day with the letter and the bloody shirt to within yards of the crime scene to mail the letter.

That’s incredibly brazen.

Chaucer,

Is there a source online where you can check these ?

 
Posted : May 1, 2019 5:52 pm
 Soze
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I don’t know off top of my head which Richmond (inner or central) that the 1B represents without having to look. Sorry. Going through personal things at moment and dont feel like looking. I told Chaucer where it was. I trust that it’s inner.

Soze

Yes, I double checked and it represents Inner Richmond which as I said is very near the Stine murder scene.

Think about this though:

What if it doesn’t say "1B"? What if it actually says "7B"?

7B is the district code for Pacific Heights which is literally a 6 block walk from where Paul Stine was murdered. It’s possible Zodiac returned the next day with the letter and the bloody shirt to within yards of the crime scene to mail the letter.

That’s incredibly brazen.

No offense but it looks like a straight line 1 to me. Doesn’t have that slant that a 7 would have.

Soze

 
Posted : May 1, 2019 6:00 pm
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Don’t worry Chaucer, have now found on internet.

Sorry one last question what does it mean if there is no code on the Postmark, as in the Belli letter?

 
Posted : May 1, 2019 6:12 pm
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