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Mystery of the Riverside Scoreboard

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For the life of me I can’t find the location of the scoreboard that is prominently seen in a police photo from the Riverside crime scene. Maybe I have the location of the body wrong? In any case, below you’ll see the scoreboard photo. Then some aerial shots taken in 1966 (with body location marker) and 1967. I have marked where I believe the body was found. I have examined the aerial shots to the best of my ability, (ad nauseam for two days) highlighting them, adjusting contrast etc, but can not find the scoreboard. (Why would they have a scoreboard so far from the football field anyway?

Thoughts?

 
Posted : November 19, 2017 9:00 pm
Tahoe27
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I think it’s there, it’s just that from above it would appear sort of thin (for lack of a better word).

I believe it’s probably near the "L" at the top/middle "HistoricAerials". I think the field that is there below now, was the one they used then.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : November 19, 2017 10:52 pm
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Well, if my body location is correct, then the police photo shows the scoreboard slightly to the east of bing directly across from the dirt path. The would mean it would be a bit to the right to the "L" in Aerials. IN any case, there’s no shadow in the photos and for something that high it would cast a shadow. (Other objects are certainly casting shadows.) Odd.

 
Posted : November 19, 2017 11:35 pm
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Well, if my body location is correct, then the police photo shows the scoreboard slightly to the east of bing directly across from the dirt path. The would mean it would be a bit to the right to the "L" in Aerials. IN any case, there’s no shadow in the photos and for something that high it would cast a shadow. (Other objects are certainly casting shadows.) Odd.

I have noticed this myself over the past 10 years or so and have a theory:
I believe it is an optical allusion caused by the camera/lens that makes objects appear to be closer than they really are.

If you notice in the aerial photos there are two football fields, one close to the crime scene and the other to the northeast,
I believe the scoreboard belongs to the farthest field which was used by the RCC football team, I think the close field was
used for student intramural sports.

If you look closely at the crime scene photo you will see mountains that appear to be relatively close by, but when you look
at those mountains in contemporary photos in google "street view" they appear to be very far off in the distance.

As far as the body location you have circled the crime scene is the next driveway over to the west.

 
Posted : November 20, 2017 3:51 am
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Thanks for the update on the body location. Good theory on the scoreboard being falsely rendered by the camera lens. The amazing thing is that according to the measuring tool on historic aerials, the distance from the camera location in that shot to the sign (seen at the SW corner of the main football field in the 1966 photo) is over 660 feet away! Hard to belie a lens would do that, but there really is no other explanation I guess. (Unless we go full-tilt-tinfoil and suppose that the Riverside Cops faked the photo to protect one of their own. :-0)

 
Posted : November 20, 2017 4:53 am
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Posted : November 20, 2017 5:12 am
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If that is the scoreboard, it’s facing he wrong direction. ;)

That would have been massive and up high in the air, right by the large field. I don’t see that happening… :?:


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : November 20, 2017 5:30 am
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If that is the scoreboard, it’s facing he wrong direction. ;)

That would have been massive and up high in the air, right by the large field. I don’t see that happening… :?:

No Tahoe, it’s facing the football field to the northeast just out of view.

 
Posted : November 20, 2017 5:40 am
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A front view of the scoreboard.

Coincidentally the football player in the photo is Cheri Jo’s fiancee Dennis Highland

 
Posted : November 20, 2017 6:11 am
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Sure seems, to be above street level (the street that Cheri was on), it would have to be way taller than that. I know pictures can be deceiving.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : November 20, 2017 7:22 am
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It’s pretty big, Look at the size of the scoreboard’s black outline as compared to the houses. Of course we can’t tell how tall it is, but the angle seems correct as compared to the angle in the crime photo.

 
Posted : November 20, 2017 8:02 am
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Sure seems, to be above street level (the street that Cheri was on), it would have to be way taller than that. I know pictures can be deceiving.

Yes I know what you mean Tahoe, the street level of Terracina Dr. appears to be about 20 feet higher than the level of football
fields but I just can’t imagine what else it could be ?

 
Posted : November 20, 2017 8:17 am
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