3. Did Zodiac send the Albany letters?
A few years back, based on having been a journalist, I looked at the style and grammar and such from an AP Style perspective, to see if Z had been following the rules of AP Style. In the end, I thought it was inconclusive about whether or not Z had a journalism background – he violated some rules, but had a noticeable and curious adherence to them at times. On the bomb diagram, for instance, he writes "July, Aug. Sept., Oct." which is exactly how a journalist would do it – write out July, abbreviate the others. The one letter I ruled out as being from a journalist was the Albany letter -there are all sorts of AP Style violations. So I’ve always thought no. But the handwriting expert on the recent show has made me reconsider.
Checking the letters (I assume you checked them all) against the AP style manual was a great idea. Did you check the letters against other major style manuals?
No arrest, no conviction, no certainty. Had the DOJ solved any of the four canonical crimes I’d be inclined to take their opinion more seriously regarding CJB. They haven’t and I don’t.
Just because Zodiac wasn’t apprehended doesn’t mean there wasn’t evidence linking Bates to the Zodiac murders. Clearly there was.
No arrest, no conviction, no certainty. Had the DOJ solved any of the four canonical crimes I’d be inclined to take their opinion more seriously regarding CJB. They haven’t and I don’t.
Just because Zodiac wasn’t apprehended doesn’t mean there wasn’t evidence linking Bates to the Zodiac murders. Clearly there was.
In criminal cases, evidence must be beyond a reasonable doubt. Possible is a long way from probable and probable is a long way from beyond a reasonable doubt. I know of no evidence in the CJB case that rises above the level of possible in linking the case to any of the four canonical Z cases.
I invite you to cite that which you feel is the strongest evidence (let’s say the top three pieces of evidence) linking the CJB case to the LHR case, to the BRS case, to the LB case and to the Stine case (your position is that all four of those were committed by the same person, is it not?). I do hope it’s not Sherwood Morrill-esqe.
Are you the same Kolchak that sent everyone those crazy messages over at Tom’s forum?
No arrest, no conviction, no certainty. Had the DOJ solved any of the four canonical crimes I’d be inclined to take their opinion more seriously regarding CJB. They haven’t and I don’t.
Just because Zodiac wasn’t apprehended doesn’t mean there wasn’t evidence linking Bates to the Zodiac murders. Clearly there was.
In criminal cases, evidence must be beyond a reasonable doubt. Possible is a long way from probable and probable is a long way from beyond a reasonable doubt. I know of no evidence in the CJB case that rises above the level of possible in linking the case to any of the four canonical Z cases.
I invite you to cite that which you feel is the strongest evidence (let’s say the top three pieces of evidence) linking the CJB case to the LHR case, to the BRS case, to the LB case and to the Stine case (your position is that all four of those were committed by the same person, is it not?). I do hope it’s not Sherwood Morrill-esqe.
The written and verbal (via telephone) correspondence ties all the crimes together. Do you not know this?
Are you the same Kolchak that sent everyone those crazy messages over at Tom’s forum?
Definitely not. I was unaware that someone using a similar name did that or I would have selected another name. As it is, mine is spelled Kolchack. Thank you for asking to give me the opportunity to make that clear.
Are you the same Kolchak that sent everyone those crazy messages over at Tom’s forum?
Definitely not. I was unaware that someone using a similar name did that or I would have selected another name. As it is, mine is spelled Kolchack. Thank you for asking to give me the opportunity to make that clear.
The name is supposed to be Kolchak. Karl Kolchak, from the Night Stalker. There is no such name as Kolchack.
Never in the annals of history has there been the name Kolchack. Only Kolchak, The night stalker.
In criminal cases, evidence must be beyond a reasonable doubt.
We are not discussing the prosecuting of an individual.
Less than 1% of the evidence collected by the various Zodiac police departments is known to the public.
In November 1970 the various jurisdictions compared evidence and determined Zodiac killed Cheri Bates. That’s not up for debate. It really happened. Now, if you want to believe your opinion on the 1% puts you in a better position to know the real truth, over those who have seen the other 99%…that’s interesting.
No arrest, no conviction, no certainty. Had the DOJ solved any of the four canonical crimes I’d be inclined to take their opinion more seriously regarding CJB. They haven’t and I don’t.
Just because Zodiac wasn’t apprehended doesn’t mean there wasn’t evidence linking Bates to the Zodiac murders. Clearly there was.
Evidence is anecdotal…thats the problem….i do believe desk top poem does relate to cjb but linking to z is iffy at this point..guess we find out if her case is ever solved….
linking to z is iffy at this point..
It’s nothing recent. Was done in November 1970.
Hey guys…first post here, but I have been reading the boards since hearing Morf on the Generation Why podcast a while back. Just finished the new Criminology Podcast…which was excellent by the way…and wanted to poll the board about some basic Zodiac facts. I preface the questions with the understanding everything is debatable, but "gun to your head":
1. Who is the Zodiac (your favorite/most likely suspect)?
2. Did Zodiac kill Cheri Jo Bates?
3. Did Zodiac send the Albany letters?
4. Is Donna Lass a Zodiac victim?
5. Was that really the Zodiac driving Kathleen Johns around?
6. Can the 340 cipher be solved or is it just gibberish?Especially interested for the mods- Tahoe, doranchak, Seagull, Morf, etc. to chime in. I see you guys debate various topics all the time, but curious where you currently stand on these major issues.
1. Arthur Lee Allen
2. Yes
3.No
4.Yes
5.Yes
6.No
1. Arthur Leigh Allen was the Zodiac Killer.
2. Yes.
3. No.
4. No.
5. Probably not.
6. It can be solvable. It can be junk-texted.
P.S. Good questions, kudos Officer_Barbrady.
“Nobody called him Arthur.”
1. Who is the Zodiac ?
Kjell Qvale
2. Did Zodiac kill Cheri Jo Bates?
No
3. Did Zodiac send the Albany letters?
No
4. Is Donna Lass a Zodiac victim?
No
5. Was that really the Zodiac driving Kathleen Johns around?
Maybe but i strongly doub it.
6. Can the 340 cipher be solved or is it just gibberish?
I think it can be solved if provided a key. Without it I don’t think it will be possible to reach a perfect solution.
1. Who is the Zodiac ?
2. Did Zodiac kill Cheri Jo Bates?
3. Did Zodiac send the Albany letters?
4. Is Donna Lass a Zodiac victim?
5. Was that really the Zodiac driving Kathleen Johns around?
6. Can the 340 cipher be solved or is it just gibberish?
1-6. Not sure anymore due to cognitive dissonance after joining this website.
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