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Scrutinizing Police Reports And Finding Discrepancies

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I’ve posted about this subject at my forum but I know many of you don’t visit there.

Back then the men were the detectives and the women were the receptionists/secretaries/clerks.

The detectives would take handwritten notes at the crime scenes and when it was time to put the info into a formal report they would turn the notes over to someone who could actually type, such as Nancy Slover; she typed most of the Vallejo PD reports while employed there.

So, Nancy would take, say, Richard Hoffman’s handwriting and try to make the best sense of it she could. When completed, it would go back to Hoffman so he could sign it.

Hoffman wrote "36" but Nancy thought it said "38." That type of thing.

Many discrepancies can be explained by this procedure.

 
Posted : February 26, 2018 7:44 am
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Great topic, have you discovered any important discrepancies yet? Also, I would like to visit the thread on your site, could you post a link? Thanks

 
Posted : February 26, 2018 7:50 am
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Great topic, have you discovered any important discrepancies yet? Also, I would like to visit the thread on your site, could you post a link? Thanks

I don’t think I started a thread about it, but whenever someone would think a discrepancy was important, I like to remind them about the procedure used back then. I think they’re all simple mistakes.

 
Posted : February 26, 2018 7:53 am
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Cool. Learning about how police procedure back then has been a real challenge for me. Thanks Tom

 
Posted : February 26, 2018 8:00 am
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Cool. Learning about how police procedure back then has been a real challenge for me.

Everything I know came from Nancy Slover. Others eventually verified it, but I had no idea until Nancy joined our group.

 
Posted : February 26, 2018 8:02 am
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Nancy certainly was an invaluable asset to the investigation. Did she ever lend any insights into the Vallejo police strike that seemed to occur right after the Blue Rock Springs shooting or is that something you have looked into? Surely it had little to do with Zodiac who wasn’t even Zodiac yet but I have always been curious about it.

 
Posted : February 26, 2018 9:52 am
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Nancy certainly was an invaluable asset to the investigation. Did she ever lend any insights into the Vallejo police strike that seemed to occur right after the Blue Rock Springs shooting or is that something you have looked into?

Yes, it was called the "Blue Flu."

On a side note, to those who are suspicious of Richard Hoffman…Nancy told me and others she would have recognized his voice if he were the Zodiac. She worked with him closely.

 
Posted : February 26, 2018 9:57 am
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"Yes, it was called the "Blue Flu."

Do you mean a bunch of Vallejo police got the flu in July and that’s why there was a ‘strike’?

"On a side note, to those who are suspicious of Richard Hoffman…Nancy told me and others she would have recognized his voice if he were the Zodiac. She worked with him closely."

Yes, people certainly do love their RH suspects!

 
Posted : February 26, 2018 10:07 am
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"Yes, it was called the "Blue Flu."

Do you mean a bunch of Vallejo police got the flu in July and that’s why there was a ‘strike’?

I believe that means many of them called in sick on the same day as a sort of strike, not that they were actually sick. It must have turned into a full fledged strike however as there are reports about Hoffman getting into a fight with another officer about the picket line duties.

 
Posted : February 26, 2018 10:18 am
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On a side note, to those who are suspicious of Richard Hoffman…Nancy told me and others she would have recognized his voice if he were the Zodiac. She worked with him closely.

I established a timeline here, best I could, to show Hoffman could not have made the phone call anyway.

viewtopic.php?p=59799#p59799

 
Posted : February 26, 2018 10:21 am
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"Yes, it was called the "Blue Flu."

Do you mean a bunch of Vallejo police got the flu in July and that’s why there was a ‘strike’?

I believe that means many of them called in sick on the same day as a sort of strike, not that they were actually sick. It must have turned into a full fledged strike however as there are reports about Hoffman getting into a fight with another officer about the picket line duties.

Thanks Cat, that makes a lot more sense! Is the officer you are referencing as having fought with Hoffman named Howard ‘Buzz’ Gordon or are you talking about something else? I heard that the two of them got in a fist fight and it ended with Hoffman swearing he would have his revenge but I never knew whether that ever actually happened or what it may have been about. Picket line duty is the best explanation I have heard. Buzz was said to have dated Darlene Ferrin and Hoffman was for some reason Graysmithed into Yellowbook’s painting party so it seemed like an episode ready for a far out theory, but again, Nancy Slover having worked with both officers pretty much puts an end to it.

 
Posted : February 26, 2018 10:33 am
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If we take Richard Hoffman as traveling in the ambulance, as stated in the 2007 documentary, and Darlene Ferrin being pronounced dead at 12.38 am on her arrival at the hospital, unless Richard Hoffman towed his vehicle along at the back of the ambulance, to then immediately vacate the hospital premises the instant she died, without a vehicle, and place a phone call at Springs and Tuolumne to Nancy Slover is simply impossible.

 
Posted : February 26, 2018 1:11 pm
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Is the officer you are referencing as having fought with Hoffman named Howard ‘Buzz’ Gordon or are you talking about something else?

Yes, it was Buzz he fought with. I’m pretty sure it was on the picket line and about the strike. Or maybe it was about a strike and picket line. There is a letter, or statement, from Buzz about all of this. I’ll see if I can find this letter by Buzz but don’t remember where I saw it. Hopefully someone else here knows and will post it.

EDIT : Found it at TV’s site. It’s not actually Buzz’s words but a report on an interview with him.

http://www.zodiackiller.com/Buzz1.html

 
Posted : February 26, 2018 9:08 pm
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If we take Richard Hoffman as traveling in the ambulance, as stated in the 2007 documentary, and Darlene Ferrin being pronounced dead at 12.38 am on her arrival at the hospital,

Lynch record the time he arrived at BRS as 12:35 and the ambulance didn’t arrive until after he was there. I’d say there is a high probability Hoffman was still at BRS or in the ambulance on the way to the hospital at 12:38 and also at 12:40 when the phone call was made.

 
Posted : February 26, 2018 9:28 pm
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Is the officer you are referencing as having fought with Hoffman named Howard ‘Buzz’ Gordon or are you talking about something else?

Yes, it was Buzz he fought with. I’m pretty sure it was on the picket line and about the strike. Or maybe it was about a strike and picket line. There is a letter, or statement, from Buzz about all of this. I’ll see if I can find this letter by Buzz but don’t remember where I saw it. Hopefully someone else here knows and will post it.

EDIT : Found it at TV’s site. It’s not actually Buzz’s words but a report on an interview with him.

http://www.zodiackiller.com/Buzz1.html

Thank you kindly!

 
Posted : February 26, 2018 11:14 pm
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