Thank you for posting that, I’ll get to it in a bit, I’m working in the "imperial wizard" AD at the moment in another thread.

The Zodiac & Imperial Wizard
http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=4548&p=75245#p75245

UPDATE… For the IMPERIAL WIZARD MESSAGE -PLEASE JUST GO TO THIS NEW THREAD, IT HAS EVERYTHING ON THERE
I’m trying to keep everything organized so it is not lost and cluttered

The Zodiac & Imperial Wizard
http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=4548&p=75245#p75245
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OMG I just have to add this over here. it is over on the other 2 threads because it fits over there,

Zodiac in World War Two Thread
http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=4532

and

The Meaning of the Personal Ad . Thread
http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1756

but I just have to put it here as well, because it is definitely The RIDDLER…

look at this stuff. it’s CRAZY haha ( shine on you crazy diamond, RIDDLER)

okay I posted this post over on the above 2 threads because they are discussed over there.
but I need to post it on here because it is definitely about The Zodiac & The Riddler.

"BACON AND EGGS" asked me to take a look at this note, and see what I thought.

I don’t want to start a new thread; I also don’t want to derail a previous thread so I’ll start here
and if you think I should start a new thread then tell me.

okay this is my opinion what this is talking about. I don’t know anything about Manalli or the other murders "bacon and eggs" said happened right before this,
so I’ll probably know more after someone tells me and I read. someone more familiar with all of that might get a clue after I post my thoughts ONLY on the AD.

I’m just going to decode this thing and then we can go from there, and as I know more I might be able to make more sense out of it. However, I have a good idea
what is going on here even without knowing anything else. (Again my opinion, as I really don’t KNOW anything)

ZODIAC YOUR PARTNER IS IN DEEP REAL ESTATE. You’re next. The Imperial Wizard can save you. Surrender to him or I’ll terminate your case RA

This is great stuff as it gives us a clue "what" THEY(whoever they are) KNOW they are dealing with in context of The Zodiac. The "author" of the AD is "communicating" with The Zodiac
and they know "something" just happened.(The Zodiac had to have sent in something, did that happen? if we don’t have it then we need to find it) So was there something happen right before this? well "bacon and eggs" posted to me in another thread there were 3 murders right before this AD came out. I don’t know anything about the murders yet, so after I post this I hope someone fills me in. Or is could be that someone who knows The Riddler is flipping out. Or the Queen of Hearts is in trouble or knows something the Riddler does not know yet.something is really wrong here.(you have to understand my theory of The Zodiac to understand these "characters".

I believe this to definitely be a REAL( the way it is coded) Zodiac communication. (btw I believe "The Zodiac" is more than one person) I believe "R.A." definitely
knows exactly "What" they are talking to. "WHAT" meaning the R.A. know which "group" they are talking to even if they don’t know exactly which individual. (they might even know who and can’t find them, or for some other reason do not want to find them until this person wants to be found)they know they have a loose cannon out here and they are trying to get something done about it. Either way we are looking at INSTRUCTIONS or WARNING, or someone asking for help to get this stopped>

I don’t believe they would have just randomly tossed that ad out in the "PERSONAL" AD SECTION, unless they had already received a message from "The Zodiac" to put it THERE. otherwise The Zodiac most
likely would never see it. So Zodiac has contacted them and told them to put it there or back and forth they have arrangements to do this. I believe they are "coding" back and forth in the NEWS all the time(for another thread)

sooo… Rule #1… never change anything in the communications, every detail means something. Don’t correct spellings, punctuation, spaces, anything, they all mean something(Very Complex)
Being this is an ad then it is not as complex as it is not WRITTEN OUT by "The Zodiac", you lose abilities to code more complex when it is typed out, especially, by the NEWS. I’m not sure why they put
it in the PERSONALS though. that is kind of lax as anyone can see that. so it is not hidden all that well. Why not put if over in something more hidden? that’s strange. And why put the word ZODIAC right in the front
where everyone is going to notice it? that’s a bit strange also. So that really makes me wonder if this is not another member of The Zodiac who put that out there. Would the authorities really stick that out there like THAT. They could just write up a whole article in the news and HIDE what they are saying, so I think some individual did this who personally has a concern about something.

so here we go…
ZODIAC is all caps. So is DEEP REAL ESTATE. And they mention the Imperial Wizard and the words start with Capitals so they are not hiding that either. that again is a sign of exposing someone.The whole thing has that tone. There are many ways they could have written that so no one would have ever noticed it. so someone is angry, really angry( or worried). it is equivalent to someone putting !!!!!!!!! all over it to get everyone’s attention.

ZODIAC Your partner is in DEEP REAL ESTATE. You’re next.

because this is in the PERSONALS, I’m assuming(bad to assume) this is "personal". and because this states ZODIAC right out in front of God and everyone, it is really not trying to be hidden. yet they are coding. so it is almost like a ditch effort on the part of the author as if okay if you don’t do this or that, I’m going to start exposing you… Look at this, I’m going to stick it right out here where everyone can notice it. why do that?
because you are at your wits end and mad and you have a threatening attitude, "you do this or else" kind of thing. And then to say DEEP REAL ESTATE out there like that(Capitals), again tells me they are not trying to be very hidden. So what happened to make someone so angry or so worried. It is really hard to say who the author is… TO Zodiac or FROM Zodiac. you almost wonder if it is not FROM someone who knows The Riddler. you would THINK the people in high places would not put out something LIKE THAT. very bizarre.

so we could have Zodiac=your partner) or Zodiac… Your partner(zodiac’s partner = one of the group) . is in DEEP REAL ESTATE… is in… hmm they are IN IT. part ner N er DEEP.. under… Real Estate.. land / house/ property… deep is UNDER… UNDER the sea C. drowning. something underwater. … now keep all of that in mind. we have to find a check/match out here. You’re… RE . there is the RE again. which is REAL ESTATE .
so. to part / cut/ slice/ separate.. (part . ner . N er) . (is in =N .. inside, within)–> (DEEP = under, down, watER, drown, sea=C) . ( REAL ESTATE = RE – house, land, propERty) You’re next = U /ER / next(following, beside)

The Imperial Wizard can save you. … (ImpERial = Royal, King, REgal) Wizard = person who can perform magic. astrologer – seer- sourcerer(oooh double) –(Can = containER, REceptacle vessel(hmm jar)
save you… save U. (save – ransom, REscUe).
Surrender to him… SurREndER Sur-REndER… sur – Sir. Render, delivER, give, tendER, hand ovER, to pay back) pay back= go back
or – oar- oRE) I’ll = I-LL hmm . 15050? , 55000? or 50 +50= 100,000
terminate = end, stop, finish, detERmine, abort, sack(bur lap=rub pal = erase, kill) . secREt Pal. = (terminate, to end to wrap up = around and up. … wrap up = layer
your case – scrutinize, examine, view, case – KEYS

it is totally layered for sure, and definitely z stuff. there are keys mentioned in here, there is extortions in here (could even be a ransom, but I would think extortion)

omg this is crazy stuff. but it makes sense. I’ll have to go through and get all the CHECKS… but someone is going to give up the keys if someone does not get their money.
they are extorting money. there are also instructions in here with ER, U, C, oh CURE. that would be the Imperial Wizard which means Marine Pysche… hmmm

so we have a MARINE, vessel, gunboat. and the imperial wizard, who is the Marine pysche. we have DEEP water… a diver… we have some kind of money involved. 100,000 most likely. real estate is a house. a HUGE HOUSE… SIR RENDER(render to ceazer = money = ore =gold) wait a minute maybe they want gold bars. 50 is a gold bar unit of tael, chinese. that’s weird, why chinese. is that right, I need to work that out.
(note – In the Exorist Letter also mentions 100, so I never knew why only 100, so that was also probably 100,000. (so The Riddler has been on a time payment plan for how long at least 2 years. If I remember correctly when I figured this out years ago, there were more mentions of demanding money… more later)

so now we go back to the date of this ad. august 26, 1976… someone is extorting money from someone. someone has the KEYS. someone is threatening The Zodiac, or someone in The Zodiac is threatening someone else in the Zodiac. we have a marine involved. probably special ops … let me go look

Most Marines with combatant diver certification are either in the Marine Corps Forces Special Operations Command or amphibious reconnaissance communities.
oh holy crap….. he’s a RAIDER… look at this…. RA . ID . ER
This is the RIDDLER and he is extorting money from The Zodiac. no wonder the docs and case are all listed as The Zodiac EXTORTION. oh holy crap Batman.

ok who died? someone trying to get to him? could be.. and he got mad and sent that note. telling them… they are next, telling them the Imperial Wizard can save them, then are next, and he want 100,000 in tael bars, two chinese bars, or he is going to terminate their case,… omg… it’s the dang riddler. RA .. the raider. totally Z all the dang way. who is he blackmailing is the question. someone for sure. they probably told him to turn himself in and see the imperial wizard and so he tells them, YOU go see the imperial wizard(marine psyche) and let him save YOU. and render to me 2 tael bars of gold or he is going to expose them. if this was not so sad it would be hilarious. shine on you crazy diamond Riddler. haha . yep, this is definitely him haha

I was tired last night and missed something so started a new thread for —

The Zodiac & Imperial Wizard
http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=4548&p=75245#p75245

Amazingates sorry I’m not sure how to post the link but check out the Robison/bricca family murders in the “possible zodiac victims” thread, there was another coded message sent into the paper by someone anonymous claiming if the ad was published they would come forward with information about the murder case, the ad read – DR. GUIDINI: Your prescription good. However, need additional. -Zodius . It’s sounds crackers but I really feel you could be onto something with the coded messages btw

Amazingates sorry I’m not sure how to post the link but check out the Robison/bricca family murders in the “possible zodiac victims” thread, there was another coded message sent into the paper by someone anonymous claiming if the ad was published they would come forward with information about the murder case, the ad read – DR. GUIDINI: Your prescription good. However, need additional. -Zodius . It’s sounds crackers but I really feel you could be onto something with the coded messages btw

Thanks Eggs n bacon.
I’ll look at it. I’s 2:15 am here so I need to get some sleep. but I’ll check it out tomorrow, and I also have to do this big long news add that simplicity just linked on here. I’ll try to do those tomorrow.

Sometimes I wonder why in the heck I’m doing this. I expect a knock on my door any minute, so if I’m not back here tomorrow, you’ll know what happened.

Update. I glanced at it last night but I need to really think about this.
I have to get the date, what was going on at the time, but Dr. Guidini, MIGHT be the Imperial Wizard. The imperial wizard is definitely a HOUDINI…
I’m just thinking out loud here and I have not decoded this at all yet, just adding some thoughts to see if it might connect with the Imperial Wizard.
I will know after I decode it.

but things to think about.
Was their a doctor with the first letter G… who might have been an imperial wizard? see the thread —
The Zodiac & Imperial Wizard
http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=4548&p=75245#p75245

I will work on this though, and I have not tried to decode it yet so don’t think the imperial wizard has anything to do with it, it is just a click in the brain how my mind works, means nothing
but I need to write it here so I don’t forget later.

Here, his mentioning of the “book of the dead” hit me, not because of the ominous name but rather it’s something i previously followed on my own accord. The Zodiac doesn’t appear to use Ancient Egyptian glyphs. It is only the English translation of Ancient Egyptian words that bare a resemblance. Anyway please carry on.

I have not had time to go through that article yet, however, I did notice something.

The Lost Continent of Mu – I think the SLA used that. God been ages ago, I can’t remember. something to check out though.
I have not about the SLA in soooo long.
anyway, I’ll work on that article tomorrow. it’s after 3 am and i need to sleep
btw I have some stories about the SLA I’ll post later. well at least part of them LOL
btw… somewhere about 90-93-94. I was talking to someone who went in the charred remains of the SLA house
and NOT EVERYTHING burned. Someone went in there and took out some stuff. I was suppose to see it, but never did.
I was not really interested because I thought the person who told me would also tell others I had seen this stuff if I looked at it,
and at the time I did not want ANYONE knowing I knew anything, so I just acted like I did not care and blew it off as if not interested.
I was definitely interested but thought it best know one knew I knew.

at the same time the person had just got some letters coming out of high desert about Manson, and I did read those, and upon reading them,
I just blew them off and acted like I didn’t even know who Manson was. again, I did not trust this person to be quiet, as they were some normal
upstanding person who was very active in the community and who had I certainly wanted NONE of them to be coming and talking to me about any
of this stuff. I told this person, quit showing this to anyone and get rid of it. I’m sure this stuff might still be floating around. This person is dead now
but the family knew she had it, so maybe they have it? I’d like to see it now. I have forgotten what it said really, but I knew enough to know I wanted
nothing to do with her knowing I understood it. oh well, another life, another time.

Amazingates sorry I’m not sure how to post the link but check out the Robison/bricca family murders in the “possible zodiac victims” thread, there was another coded message sent into the paper by someone anonymous claiming if the ad was published they would come forward with information about the murder case, the ad read – DR. GUIDINI: Your prescription good. However, need additional. -Zodius . It’s sounds crackers but I really feel you could be onto something with the coded messages btw

Thanks Eggs n bacon.
I’ll look at it. I’s 2:15 am here so I need to get some sleep. but I’ll check it out tomorrow, and I also have to do this big long news add that simplicity just linked on here. I’ll try to do those tomorrow.

Sometimes I wonder why in the heck I’m doing this. I expect a knock on my door any minute, so if I’m not back here tomorrow, you’ll know what happened.

Update. I glanced at it last night but I need to really think about this.
I have to get the date, what was going on at the time, but Dr. Guidini, MIGHT be the Imperial Wizard. The imperial wizard is definitely a HOUDINI…
I’m just thinking out loud here and I have not decoded this at all yet, just adding some thoughts to see if it might connect with the Imperial Wizard.
I will know after I decode it.

but things to think about.
Was their a doctor with the first letter G… who might have been an imperial wizard? see the thread —
The Zodiac & Imperial Wizard
http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=4548&p=75245#p75245

I will work on this though, and I have not tried to decode it yet so don’t think the imperial wizard has anything to do with it, it is just a click in the brain how my mind works, means nothing
but I need to write it here so I don’t forget later.

EGGS & BACON… sorry took me so long to get this on here. I was banned and now I’m not, HMMM but anyway LOL. I wanted to get this posted on here for YOU.
okay this is going to sound weird to you I know, but here it is

I’ll do this small note now.

DR.GUIDINI: Your prescription good. However, need additional. -Zodius

DR GUIDINI – ??? well DR = doctor and CHECK would be "prescription" so that makes sense for DR, but DR (Witch/Warlock)..just because I KNOW that, it is not in the code) of what ? GUIDINI ? what is that… Good in I??? Good N I (eye – glasses), oh ok
Your prescription – pre = before scription -writing- to script=to code …. so before prescription is GUIDINI . hmmm so before writing the code, go back to DR GUIDINI(witch / warlock = war lock) go back to GUIDINI (get prescription for your glasses)
( I have to laugh because DR = Dennis Rader, LOL, and he was in michigan all the time .. weird, but interesting, didn’t he leave his glasses somewhere)…

ok put on your glasses so you can SEE . …. your prescription good… ok there it is. good = Goodini .

hmmm Good in eye… oh… eye drops… omg. I drops… to put something in your eye, to put something. a package? a drop? … However… all good but, need additional. ok need more. ADD ? need additional WHAT?
oh holy hell. ZODIUS . latin .. Zodium…. sodium (nitrate? = blow it up (sodium nitrate appears is noncombustible but accelerates the burning of combustible materials. You can use it to blast a fire / explosion, but usually needs heat / fire to light it up) . now let’s hope this is about blowing up the code, and not a literal bomb.

… GUIDINI . to script, mix, scramble… UID GINI.. Unidentified deceased . GINI . who is that? Jeanie?
what the hell is this saying. .. hmmm so someone told them something about an unidentified body but they need more info cuz they can see= figure it out. lf they have the code but they can’t figure out who it is, need more prescrption, code on the unidentified body. they need more info.

well if they have the same code and understand each other, then this tells me the person who sent them the info in the code it making them GUESS… who does that sound like haha. but I don’t think this is the RIDDLER.
This really sounds like Dennis Rader. I have tons of his stuff and have coded with him enough to know what he does. this is the same code but not very good. but again, he liked playing around with people and laughing and making them guess. I don’t see anything that tells me any DIRECTIONS… so they are not blowing up the route (Directions, seems odd), … there is going to be another NOTE or message that goes with this. and basically it even says so. they need eye DROPS… what is interesting though is if this is the authorities and DR talking about an unidentified deceased body, then what year is this??? and what murder happened that coincides with this. And where was this note left?

this is REALLY good stuff. because it lets us know there is an UID(unidentified deceased) person. OR… was there IUID code back at this time? I doubt that would be it??? I don’t know about that stuff but as far as I know they were not using that in the The Zodiac, and I have not noticed it in any SK cases, but I have never looked either.

also drops in my eyes… drop the I’s… they constanting do that. I=9.

well they are definitely coding and understand the code, but they still can’t figure out who the unidentified body is unless they get more code to figure it out. or if it is code and not a body, they can’t figure out the code, so the instructions/directions are not here, and that is true, they are not here. so where are they. I don’t think this is talking about the CODE. I think it is talking about an unidentified dead body. Whatever it is talking about, they need more info, and so do I. but we do know that whoever is talking back and forth here, know each other. or they communicate. now, is it two killers? or is it the authorities and a killer.

the only other thing they might mean is they want someone to drop off more bomb making supplies.

without knowing in what context this message was put out there, it is hard to say…

being the way this is written and being this is in michigan, and being I know a TON about Dennis Rader that is not public, and being I also know someone else in this area etc,
and being I know a hell of a lot more than I am saying… I’m really thinking this might be dennis rader . we just have to find out if any of what I just said rings a bell with anything anyone knows, or
if DR is connected to anyone involved in any other case, or we have to find the communication that goes with this one. We can’t just GUESS… but I have a pretty good GUESS

I really need the other side of this correspondence to understand it. I can’t do complete CHECKS with only this part of this.
btw I’m not saying that Dennis Rader is THE RIDDLER, but he might have seen messages from The RIDDLER and jump in and try to play the game. people do that ya know. And Dennis is definitely one who would.

but The Riddler was definitely conneceted to Michigan, I’ll tell you that 10000000% positive. WAY back when. And the FBI had a lot of stuff on Zodiac back there then in Michigan. Why back there I don’t know… well I do KINDA know, but not really. and Dennis Rader was TOTALLY connected there too. and I have a lot of stuff from him that is weird about Michigan but the feds confinscated half of our correspondence so it is hard for me to make sense of everything he was telling me. but I’ll tell you, this sounds like it might be Dennis. but I can’t be sure because we don’t have the other stuff that goes with it

I will tell you this though… I will bet you the Eureka card has to do with the dang glasses and the and I know a LOT Of Z people will tell you that card is fake, but it is not. and those KEYS in that card and the bunny etc and the wording in that card, tells me all I need to know that is real. I know people say it was traced, but again, that means nothing, there is more than one scribe out here.

WORKING ON THE STARS AND STRIPES ARTICLE
LOS ANGELES TIMES
this is going to be really hard to do on here as it is so huge and hard to Maneuver inside here. And it is so long, but I’ll try to do it.

first of all what is the date on this… and this even REAL?
Who actually wrote this article. It is definitely coded all up, but there is something about it that looks weird to me.

but I’ll do it anyway.

This thread is getting way too long-
Going to lock it.